I think it’s still going to help when running extra mods that impact the CPU cycles though. Traffic, animations (birds etc), clouds details, global mods that add stuff the PC needs to keep track of and to support a higher LOD setting, to push that extra data to the GPU without hiccups??
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Of course but for $400 I’d rather not … I guess it depends on what you’re upgrading from but my 3800X paired with a 3060 has no problems with LOD400 at any resolution, I would be upgrading my cpu just to raise traffic from the default … just not worth it unless I also upgrade my gpu.
PS I don’t fly the Fenix or use huge addon airports though, then I might consider it.
Zen4 x3d should be announced during CES in january following with launch in february or early march. Almost all tech leakers covering this are saying the same timeframe q12023.
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I have RTX 3070 with 49" superultrawide (3840x1080, so lots of pixels to light up). Went from Ryzen 3600 to 5600X, but didn’t really feel much of a difference. Then went from 5600X to 5800X3D and that was quite an improvement. I made one “before/after” comparison though on the ground with custom scenery, and as I recall, it gave me 15 fps extra or something like that.
But during my daily use, I don’t really care about the numbers, if it’s 35 fps or 55 fps. I just want it to feel smooth and look good. And it feels smoother now than before.
Initially I regretted purging out that much dough for a CPU, but I feel I got good performance for the money.
Great, but once it does come out, the rest of the Zen 4 family may as well pack it’s bags.
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For most games yes, but not all of them, 7000 is also gonna be better for productivity than vcache version, x3d is very good in certain games like msfs, start citizen, grand strategy games, but if you’re someone who uses a pc for work and sometimes play games, 7000 series is a better option, it will also probably get a price cut right before x3d comes out. Anyway, i’m excited for it, i will probably be part of my next build, i currently have 3800x and while it’s a very good cpu, getting someting like 7700x3d or 7900x3d would be a big jump in msfs.
Not if AMD does it’s X3D trick on the 7950 and hence make it the biggest and baddest CPU on the block (and price it accordingly). There will always be those who can’t afford the most expensive CPU or don’t need all of the computing power and will purchase the lower end CPU’s.
Memory latency and cache hit rates.
That’s really what Zen 3 brought that Zen 2 didn’t have, and Vcache took it to the next level.
If you have all the data at the cores when they need it, there’s little to choose between them, but the limitation in flight sims, and especially in VR, is having the data you need on hand when you need it.
That is what the 5800X3D excels at.
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The other issue is that the dual chip designs do have some chip to chip latency as well, so they’d be spending twice the vCache chips to produce a part that would likely perform worse in the thread light/cache heavy scenarios VCache sees the most uplift in.
Finally, the 5800X3D vCache really was a prototype product. The frequency limits have been confirmed to be from voltage constraints, not thermal limits, so I’d expect getting two of that generation of them playing nice on the same CPU was probably exponentially harder than doing only a single.
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