8 Seats in the King Air but you can only enter weights for 4 passengers

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Brief description of the issue:

There are clearly 8 seats in the king air, but you can only enter weights for 4 passengers using the weight and fuel screen.

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Self explanatory…

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From the flight model file, these are the last lines of the weight and balance section:

max_number_of_stations = 6 ; Number of payload stations
station_load.0 = 170, 6.2, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PILOT, 1
station_load.1 = 170, 6.2, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.COPILOT, 2
station_load.2 = 170, 0, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.3 = 170, 0, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.4 = 170, -5.3, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.5 = 170, -5.3, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3

Make the following changes in bold to enable the last four seats:

max_number_of_stations = 10 ; Number of payload stations
station_load.0 = 170, 6.2, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PILOT, 1
station_load.1 = 170, 6.2, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.COPILOT, 2
station_load.2 = 170, 0, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.3 = 170, 0, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.4 = 170, -5.3, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.5 = 170, -5.3, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.6 = 170, -8.3, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.7 = 170, -8.3, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.8 = 170, -13.6, -1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3
station_load.9 = 170, -13.6, 1.5, 1.6, TT:MENU.PAYLOAD.PASSENGER, 3

The longitudinal positions are an estimate, based on an estimated three feet between the centers of the second and third rows, then another 5.3’ to the fourth, just as there is a 5.3’ difference between the first and second.

This requires a manual edit of the file, so as always, make a backup copy before editing anything.

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Thank you for that - it’s just a shame we have to do Asobo’s job for them. But thanks, I’ll give that a go.

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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it? no

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not a mod problem

Which aircraft are you reporting an issue about? (Please also add the proper tag for it)

beech king air 350i

Brief description of the issue:

the beech king air 350i seats 9 but in weight and balance tab it’s missing seats. also in a few other default planes

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

weight and balance tab.

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not relevant

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I raised this in July 2022. Bug was logged but nothing has ever been done about it. They just don’t care.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
The EFB Seat diagram does not match the actual seats in the aircraft.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Beechcraft King Air 350i

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No 3rd-Party or Community Addons (default installation) / Yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
First noticed in SU3 Beta v1.5.18.0, but have only flown this aircraft once before, on March 2nd 2025.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. In free flight, select the Beechcraft King Air 350i (any livery), choose any parking spot at any airport, and for convenience set the time to a daylight hour, any weather.
  2. Start the flight and change to the cockpit view.
  3. Change the camera viewpoint to look back into the cabin.
  4. Open the EFB. Select: Aircraft / Flight Performances / Mass & Balance.
  5. On the Seats tab, Note that there are four passenger seats shown. In the aircraft cabin there are actually nine (8 in the main cabin plus one jump-seat by the baggage / door area - see screenshot.

YOUR SETTINGS

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
N/A

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
Developer Mode is Off / No changes

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Intel Arc 770 (16GB, v32.0.101.6314)

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
N/A in for this issue.

MEDIA

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Beechcraft King Air 350i EFB Seat Mismatch
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I posted a manual fix for the 2020 sim three years back (above), but it probably can’t be used in '24 due to the streaming model.

Yet another reason to stick with what works…

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I had this issue with the Black Square King Air, so maybe an EFB issue as I doubt BS would model their W&B that way

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

as mentioned in 2 posts above, that aircraft as 9 passenger seats (1 additional in front of the door)
@AndyXPO : if you want to update the title/description to reflect that information

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