Owwww man! Too good to be true!
Is this fixed as stated?
Yes
[ X ] No
Partial
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Confirming that airplane flying qualities are not as expected. SU9 C172 flying characteristics no longer approximate the real plane. Pre CFD model is a better approximation of the airplane.
I consider this a showstopper - this is not releasable in current state given these release notes. (Please read no negativity in that statement - Iâm merely stating that the Minimum Viable Product for this plane and these release notes are not functioning as intended/advertised)
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I hope for your sake that Asobo has the same definition of showstopper that you do. Oh, I guess for my sake as well. I would also like the plane to fly correctly.
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Iâm only looking at their release notes. The sim doesnât do what they say it does. Putting on a QA hat - I donât mean anything more than that.
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I see this is tagged as bug-logged now, thanks. Does that include the wind having too much effect on the planes on the runway/ground?
doubtful, but I wish they would fix thatâŠits a separate issue thoughâŠhas to do with the terrible ground physics that they ported from legacy FS
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Yâall need to chill. You reported the bug during beta let Asobo fix it. Seeing as most of it works just in the opposite direction means someone probably accidently inverted the calculation. It may be as easy as puting a - in front of some numbers. I swear flight simmers are extremely passionate to the point of no patience and hostility.
Its not only the ground behavior, the C172 with CFD model is completely bugged.
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Chill out man. Weâre just reporting bugs. No one is being hostile here.
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Hi all.
Finally got the chance to test this again.
I flew from EHLE (lots of windmills) with clear skies and deleted wind layer.
Windmills are hardly moving, so thereâs no wind.
Tested the Cessna 172 analog and G1000. Both turn to the left on climbing.
What am I doing differently from simmers who say that this is not working?
Maybe important: I am testing the G1000 for the first time in 1.25.7. The analog version I tested in the earlier beta, where I also get a clear left turn tendency on climbing. I have to apply right rudder to compensate in both planes.
Very curious about your findings!
Most of us havenât had a chance to test the changes from todayâs build, all the previous posts are in regards to build 1.25.4, so potentially youâre not doing anything different.
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Youâre probably right and it might be caused by this fix:
- Adjusted neutral rudder angle for compensation of P-Factor at cruise speed which increases the effects of P-Factor at climb
The 152, which I have flown a lot in MSFS, has always required left rudder on the takeoff roll to maintain centerline. In SU9 it requires less-to-almost-none, and now rolls right in flight, albeit slightly.
Left rudder? I always need to apply right rudder. You mean right, right? Secondly this topic is about 172 specifically.
But that has nothing to do with âengine washâ I would assume they mean âslipstreamâ instead of engine wash. Its not clear to me what they mean with this bug fix.
It sounds related to several of my comments about the plane having left turning/rolling tendencies during a climb (though I was usually climbing at full power, maybe not cruise power). But I donât know what they are trying to say, whether they increased that tendency or decreased it. I will have to fly the plane more to figure that out.
The aircraft should roll left due to torque effect and yaw left due to P-factor and propeller slipstream effect, if left uncorrected this yaw will cause a roll obviously. It doesnât matter if you are climbing with cruise power, you will still have a left yaw / roll as propeller effects should be cancelled out (correctly rigged aircraft) when flying at cruise power AND cruise speed.
Indeed they are using somewhat confusing wording in this RN. They speak about ârollâ in combination with real âflightâ. And in the above update about âcruise speed at climbâ, which is normally done with full power.
Not sure what exactly we are supposed to test here. But im my experience both the ground roll and the climbing phase require right rudder to stay straight and level. Thatâs what I tested.
What is the cruise power and cruise speed on the C172? I seem to be getting more roll now since the update, but Iâm not sure.
Exactly, number one thing would be left yaw on ground. In air you could easily test this cycling the power between idle and full power close to stall speed. P-factor you could check by keeping wings level at full power and pull the nose up (increase AOA), the aircraft should yaw (more) to the left.