92.2% of MSFS Customers fly Airliners [Mod edit: misleading statistic, see thread for details]

My sentiment’s exactly,

And even then, I would have to imagine a large portion of that user group, found the forum because they were having an issue and did a search.

The majority of the posts being related to 2024 is not a good benchmark of where the user base is simming, it’s an indication of where the fires are.

I could be wrong though, it be interesting if MS / Asobo released that information (and maybe they have somewhere).

Not how many have installed, but how many hours usage on each, since 2024 released, by month to see how those numbers trend.

I’d suspect as 2020 was released the pendulum swung hard to the 2024 side, and then started to come back to 2020.

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Which is probably why the complaints on here are largely ignored or missed by Asobo :joy:

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Exactly. I guess im 7.8% as well. As if i fly anything bigger than the longitude, the performance drops off the table. And im not flying the A330 at 18 fps in VR.

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Hi folks,

The annual Navigraph survey is interesting (we on the MSFS team carefully read the results every year, and many of us also complete the survey ourselves), but as many other people have already noted in this thread, it’s very important not to misinterpret the data and assume this is a representative sample of the entire MSFS playerbase.

For example, another result from this survey is that only 1.7% of respondents use an Xbox console for flight simming, a figure which isn’t anywhere close to the actual number according to our telemetry data (and also validated by Marketplace sales numbers shared by some third-party developers who sell add-on products for both PC and Xbox).

I think it’s fair to say that with a sample size of 23,000+ respondents this survey does indeed give a decently accurate depiction of one very specific type of flight simmer: PC-based users who predominantly fly airliners. That, of course, does not encompass all flight simmers.

Thanks,
MSFS Team

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Its representative of Navigraph users. Thats all it is. Breaking down those numbers to extrapolate all AND just MSFS users is nothing but fictitious manipulation and proposerous speculation.

It be cool to see MS / Asobo respond with parenthesis in sections that correlate only to the MSFS atmosphere,

Example;

1.7% of the 23,000 Navigraph survey respondents primarly sim on XBOX, where as our data shows X % of everyone on MSFS (broken into 2020/2024).

I have no doubt all that data exists.

I took the survey and if memory serves me well that question allowed multiple answers. For my use case, I ticked narrow bodied airliners, GA planes, warbirds and gliders.

This means, that the sum of all all answers is not 100% but much higher, maybe 200% or even more.

Assuming the above theory is correct, 92% for Airliners would mean 92% of respondents sometimes fly (or maybe only once flew) airlines…

My 2 cts…

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It may not even be representative of all Navigraph users - it’s only representative of the group who filled in the survey. We don’t know for sure how representative that subset is of the complete user group.

Three men were riding on a train in the country and saw a black sheep.
First man said, the sheep here are black.
Second man said, no , we only know that particular sheep is black .
Third man said, we only know that particular sheep is black on this side.
And so it goes :grin::thinking:

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…and for all we know, it might be an airliner pilot on vaccation!
:rofl:

Correct. I have a Navigraph sub, but I forgot to fill out the survey this year!

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Ah, statistics, the art and science of torturing numbers until they confess to whatever your accusations are…

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It does, and if it didn’t show how many people refuse to leave 2020 for 2024 you can be sure they’d be touting it.

Sometimes silence speaks volumes.

Did they publish any such data before 2024 was released? I seem to have a vague idea, about how a majority of MSFS 2020 users were on Xbox, but I wouldn’t be able to point to any source for that. Have the numbers been officially revealed?

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Or maybe because its none of our business. And doesn’t effect the sim play. I havent touched 2020 in 2 months. Play what you like. Doesnt matter to me.

The ones that have driven 48 years since getting a licence, and never caused an accident!?

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…But you can own a license all your life and never drive a car after passing your test … :wink:

…Statistics statistics! :slight_smile:

What is Navigraph?

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Thanks. I have no need for 3rd party charts, but at least now I know who provided the data. Adobe gets even better data from their “telemetry” but they don’t share it. They can tell who flew what, where, and for how long. It’s too bad they don’t allow access to this data for developer planning purposes.