Yup, as interesting as the 9800X3D is, I’m waiting it out to see what the 9900X3D and 9950X3D bring to the table. IF AMD has 3D V-Cache working on both CCD’s, and maybe even with a slight increase in clock speeds… Look out!
And don’t forget, 9000X3D is overclockable. 
That´s my opinion too but I would still want to see the specs of the higher tier and its performance. It may be a good balance for games + productivity, even if it stays in the range of 9800X3D for games.
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Sure, there’s no reason to buy it right now. People should wait.
Likely right about the 9800x3d sweet spot, but the real question is how they fair with '24 and the claimed better multi-core support.
The benchmark is helpful because you can extrapolate the data for different scenarios.
Example: with an rtx 4090 and a 7950x3d I am still cpu limited at mega airports such as inibuilds London Heathrow in a complex airliner like the Fenix a320 or the PMDG 777. Throw in model matching with additional multiplayer aircraft on vatsim with terrain lod at 200 and the cpu bottleneck is noticeable.
However when I am at cruise, I am gpu limited.
Benchmarking at 720p ensures that the GPU is not the bottleneck during a quick benchmarking session.
Of course no one is playing at 720p but it gives users and idea of the performance uplift from the particular cpu gen on gen.
And the very important 1% low in high resolution, how they are?
CPU in 2k and above is very important, for more smoothness or higher settings in CPU bounds like LOD, Off Screen Terrain Pre-Caching, Buildings or Objects Level of Detail.
I didn’t see any of the tests for MSFS covering that, but on other tests, apparently, the 9800X3D improved a lot when compared to the 7800X3D. In Starfield it didn’t improve in average FPS, but the 1% lows were 50% better.
This video’s timing is fortunate, as he covers someone leaking a 9800x3d before the embargo lifted. One of the things he pointed out is that this specific review actually did test a more real world scenario with a 4070 ti running 1440p. The key takeaway is that average frame rates didn’t really improve over the 7800x3d, but the 1% and 0.1% lows did improve.
That is interesting info, but misleading if you aren’t careful. If you take that type of review at face value, you would think the 9800x3d is hardly any better even though it is objectively much better than its predecessor. If you were on the fence and buy a 7800x3d (assuming it is still available at non-scalped prices) thinking the 9800x3x is a waste of money with no major benefit, then your next couple of GPU upgrades would be held back. It’s short sighted method of PC building and upgrading.
I can see that at 1080p max FPS is 91.2 and the average FPS is 69 without turbo mode.
On my Ryzen 7 7800X3D, I’m getting an average of 98.2 FPS and a max of 126.9 FPS at 2K resolution, ultra settings, DX11 and TAA , LOD 200/200
On release day, I’ll buy Ryzen 7 9800X3D for testing and I might even keep it if, for example, temperatures are lower than on Ryzen 7 7800X3D.
What I really want to see is how well the 9800 X3D will perform over the 5800 X3D in those heavy 3rd party airports, with FSLTL and with the A320 Fenix or the new A380 FBW.
This kind of situation is the most CPU stressing I’ve come across to the point it can hinder the experience.
It’s just too much load on the CPU and I wonder if the new 9800 X3D would be able to scale equally well in this scenario or whether there would be other limiting factors.
And I forgot the really fps hog and stutter maker if high settings, the MSFS 2020 AI Traffic that are heavily CPU dependant also, and the online Traffics, right?.
So yes, absolutely CPU are really important in more than 1080p, and forget that, “all CPUs are the same in/over 2k/4k”…, and less in MSFS.
And without counting those heavy 3rd party addons in CPU performance impact.
We have to wait how CPU relies in 2024 and with what, and new optimizations.
Did anyone find any reviews of th 9800X3D compared to the 7950X3D ?
Preferably at higher resolution (1440p/2160p)
I’ve bin searching since yesterday afternoon and came up empty : most reviews are focussed on the 9800X3D → 7800X3D → 14700k/14900k
Is it expected that the 9800x3d will run cooler, particularly with the cache being located underneath, rather than on top of the rest of the CPU’s “circuitry”?
The 7950x3d effectively becomes a 7800x3d in gaming, and with similar performance. That, and the value proposition of the 7800x3d is probably why there is little 7950x3d comparisons. There isn’t much need to do so.
I expect a reduction in CPU temperature due to its different architecture. However, I’m not anticipating any drastic drop in temperature, especially while gaming with an FPS limit in place.
I’m also wondering about the exact release time – I’m guessing it might be at 1600Z or 1800Z? 
Great potential of 9800x3d, it has been overclocked to 6.9Ghz!
Sure, but I don’t know many simmers that are using LN2 regularly. Lol
It’s certainly got my interest, as I’d previously left upgrading my AM4/5800x3d combo, due to the cost/benefit of a new mobo, cpu and RAM, but this now seems to make it more favourable, so might take the plunge.
However, as my case is getting a bit long in the tooth now too, I might just end up with effectively a new PC. 
I’ll wait and see what FS2024 brings, performance wise, first though.
Personally I’m waiting for the higher core count versions early next year. On a 5800X3D right now. Was very close to getting a 7950X3D when it came out, but figured I can wait a generation 
I hope some can get their hands on and then share a more realistic scenario rather than the worthless same 6 games tests the so called “youtube reviewers” do.
I really want to sign off my 3930K after 12 years but MSFS 2020 still does well enough to wait the whole hype / pricing frenzies and get a more clear view to decide red or blue 
I’m probably doomed to try and install 2024 on the current computer, since " on stock" seems a weird word in shops lately 
