1080p Highest settings + Turbo mode (21% faster)
Without turbo mode = ~8% faster
Your thoughts? Any other tests available?
Another benchmark confirms +22% average compared to 7800x3d.
Amazing!
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That chart is a bit confusing, but let the excitement begin.
Now… Who wants to buy me a one, with a mobo and memory package?
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Not much difference in MSFS2020 when compared to the 7800 X3D, according to this review:
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They used an rtx 3080 instead of 4090
It seams 3080 with 9800x3d make bottleneck
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720P?
Why would that even been a benchmark resolution to test? Who is going to be running 720P and with a top of the line processor? Even 1080P is outdated.
Why don’t these benchmarks get run with equipment that is more likely to be utilized together?
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You want to see the CPU do it’s thing without any bottlenecks from the GPU
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Because you want to eliminate the influence of the graphics card as much as possible. You’re benchmarking the CPU after all, not the GPU. Hence only 720p.
And 1080p is still the most prevalent resolution out there, by a huge margin, according to the latest Steam hardware survey. 57.3%, followed by 19.7% on WQHD.
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Ok, that is fine for the wow factor, but then there is reality.
You’re going to buy a 9800X3D, a compatible mother board, high-end RAM and run this thing with 720P or 1080P?
No, you’re not. So how is the benchmark really helpful? You’re not going to use the thing that way, so who cares how fast it is in that configuration?
Isn’t a real-world use pattern more helpful when trying to ascertain how it will perform in an installation that is more akin to what someone dropping all that money is going to be really doing?
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They test everything, actually. 720p @low settings avoids a GPU bottleneck.
But here, ~16% faster at 1440p + Ultra Settings with a RTX 4090:
~15% faster @4k + Ultra settings:
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Here is a great explanation Nixon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy3w-VZyoiM
It’s relevant in every situation you are limited by the CPU regardless of the resolution you have or the GPU, and it happens quite a lot in MSFS2020, and probably in MSFS2024 too, despite the optimizations claimed.
I run at 4K with a 3090, and there are plenty of times with detailed airliners I’m CPU bound.
For me typically CPU bound happens at lower FPS than being GPU bound, hence these results matter a lot, even if done at 720p.
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Imagine testing at a higher resolution, where the GPU starts to impact performance. Then you get people complaining that the CPU review is flawed because you can’t see its real performance. For a proper CPU benchmark, you MUST test it with as little GPU effort as possible. The goal of a benchmark review is to show relative performance between processors, not necessarily how that processor performs in a “real world” scenario. Just looking at the wide range of results in the above reviews shows how flawed that can be.
Here’s a recent video clearing up that misconception.
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We expected it to be better of course. The real tests I want to see are with 2024. Not long now. Will an 8 core AMD chip still be top dog.
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There are some leaks about an eventual 9950X3D to arrive too, that can be really interesting (16 cores and higher freqs). I guess the early 2025 expo will bring some more news about those juicy assets.
Cheers
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I don’t think the 9950X3D will be better in games. The 7950X3D wasn’t. The 9800X3D will probably be the sweet spot for gaming.