Well clearly their testing and planning was a massive failure then, no? I mean, they’ve essentially admitted to such. 200k test, with millions of users worldwide combined with a lack of server capacity based on what they’ve told us. But sure… blame the frustrated consumers instead. That makes total sense. It’s not our job to understand fully what is actually going on behind the scenes, it’s theirs. It is their responsibility to release a working product, or fix a product that isn’t working for many still.
When things don’t go according to plans, it usually means the plan wasn’t solid to begin with as it didn’t include the proper steps to help mitigate those risks. No matter how you slice it to defend them and blame the frustrated consumers, the fact of the matter is this game was not ready to be released on any level. From the servers, to the massive amounts of bugs. People have every right to be upset. You can get off your high horse now.
After the fact, everyone is an expert. I’m a billionaire if i check my hindsight investment account where i bought 50000 Bitcoin for .01 each 14 years ago.
Clearly the launch did not go as planned. To come here and say the plan wasn’t solid enough is silly. They tested and thought it was solid. They didn’t launch the game with services running on a server under a desk connected to a dialup internet connection. That would have been a bad plan. This is much more complex and is being corrected.
I’m suggest you refund and move on if this is so damaging to you.
Very good idea this Topic. A big thank you to all those who near or far provided us with such software. Applause.
I just did a LFMV-LFMQ flight in Cessna then LFMQ-LFML in TBM 930 in real weather, it was superb !!! With the same graphic profile as 2020, I no longer have the landscape plates that “stick” at the last moment. The coves of Marseilleveyre and Cassis: Magnificent.
A lot of people were voicing their concerns before the launch so it wasn’t all in hindsight.
The real question to be asked is how and whether ( yes, whether is now a question to be asked) this can be fixed? I hope it can be but I think that it will be a long haul as unless you live next door to the servers in the US there are obvious infrastructure issues that need sorting out.
You are clearly most agrieved by what has been delivered. So are many not least all at MS ‘the Team’ who must be so utterly dissapointed that technical server issues have screwed this rollout. Those of us who have been here some since the 80s are probably resigned to what has happened and also know that it will all be fixed.
You however have a remedy that might make you feel better as clearly you are most fustrated.
Get a refund.
Finally had a full day with smooth streaming in the UK.
Got to say, flying randomly over a Kenyan national park seeing herds of Giraffe, Bison, a pride of Lions, Mount Kilimanjaro in the background, rainbow in the distance - awesome - more of that please!
(Alright the animations were messed up, but come on…)
If I were to Cliff’s Notes this excellent post, I’d be tempted to simply say “The programmers and QA weren’t given anywhere near the time to put 2024 together, since its many, many parts are a result of many teams’ work and cannot be expected to go together seamlessly.”
Someone above them on the food chain rushed it out badly, and it shows.
You are so right! We all have waited months for this game. Waiting 10 minutes to start the game, or even one or two weeks more for Microsoft to get everything up and calibrated should not be a problem for anyone. Or even more time if they need so. We all know it will be fantastic when everything is working as planed. All the negativity is so depressing to read. It is so ■■■■ childish behavior. Come on folks, there are more serious problems in the world right now that need more attention than slamming the poor people that have made this incredible game.
Spoken by someone who I assume can actually get into the game and use the product they paid for, right?
I’ve been able to play the game for 2 hours over the last 4 days and I still can’t get past 98% loading on launch. So I have every right to be as negative as I’d like. The 2 hours I did get to fly around were alot of fun, it felt better overall to me, but that was the 1 and only time the game has actually worked for me. So please, forigive me if I don’t care how you feel we should react.
“Sorry we burned your meal, but there are more serious problems in the world that need more attention than slamming the poor people that made this incredible (but inedible) meal!”
Seriously? And “poor people?” Are Asobo’s workers “poor people?” I doubt it.
My personal thoughts, I wont be asking for a refund. It has amazing potential but at present its not for me, waiting for my paid 3RD party aircraft to be ready for MSFS 2024. Not been a big fan of streaming.
Also spent 2 hours trying to configure the controls for specific Aircraft, again from what I see it is more powerful than MSFS 2020…but it is rather too confusing for my small brain to configure my specific aircraft to what I want, it is not user friendly.
I am not one trick pony. I like to fly all different types of aircraft (GA, Airliners, twin engines, turbo props and small private jets…you name it I will try and fly it, lie actually not tried helicopters), so working out the controls for my Bravo and Alpha very difficult for each specific Aircraft.
I have faith, however it should not of been released in the state it was in, I feel for customers that could not even load the sim.
In the meantime MSFS 2020 I will be using, although since release of MSFS 2024…been having bandwidth issues. So had to use a prescribed VPN provider…not ideal.
I am sure the staff at Asobo are working ver hard to try and resolve all these issues.
“everyone has a plan until they’re punched in the mouth”-MT
I’m sure there was a plan at the start they thought was solid because MSFS 24 deployed. It’s only determined whether a plan is successful/solid when it’s realized.
so many shortcut through unknown facts to say “answer is simple, do this”, but in fact, the behind the scenes parameters should be understood before posting.
for instance:
Visual Studios 2022 had an “XAML parsing” bug (fixed in 17.2) where the code looked to be in error yet the build succeeded. The person reporting the issue said “I can’t reproduce it, but you should do a code review because there can’t be too many lines of code in that area.” The responding engineer stated, “there are a million lines of code in that code area, doing a review isn’t feasible”.
I believe the intent of the argument was more about giving credit that there was more than just a 2005 desktop machine as the server.
Some people complain way too much about things they barely understand. Like, “I want my cake now”, “but it needs another 25 minutes to bake”, “but why won’t it bake faster and be done now?”.
It’s easy to be critical, it’s patient to be understanding they tried their best with what they planned with so many unknown users (pre-orders, game pass pre-loads, and same-day new installs; more than 0 less than max(eligible gamepass users) and launch day buyers. I didn’t answer a poll on my likelihood of installing/playing MSFS 24 on launch day.
To add insult to this, is that I believe MS and Asobo bargained on the support of the die hard simmers. Those who have stuck through the 2020 bad times, broken promises. “Ah don’t worry Jorg they will forgive us and suck it up. Just give them another free plane they don’t want.” What sickens me is that people are defending this. I don’t get it.
Well done for the hard work but must try harder next time.