I just upgraded from a 1070 to a 3070,got bit badly and sold it and got the 3090.
I can concur that the 8GB was never enough-not for P3Dv5 anyway which ate up all my VRAM.
For a few hundred more getting the 3090 and 24GB of VRAM instead of the 3080 and 10GB VRAm will be better future proofing but everyone has their own tough decisions to make!
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This is a very good and important observation. Iâm only overclocking my 3090FE to +248MHz to achieve a 10000MHz speed, a lot of the guides are going for 500-700MHz but theyâll likely turn their card into a nice paper weight in a short while.
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I have an i9 and 3090⊠donât have any of the issues you have. Running great at 90% Ultra.
Do not expect the sim will runs better than in a 2080 ti
That is definitely not true. With my 5800x, I saw a very significant performance increase going from a 3070 to a 3090.
Saying this as a fellow 3090 owner Iâd be careful of thinking you are future proofed.
We are entering an environment in GPU that we havenât seen for some time⊠AMD finally both gives a hoot about GPU again (and importantly now has a lot of cash to dedicate to it vs nearly being bankrupt 5 yrs ago) and this gen have started bothering Nvidia at the high end. Meanwhile they are being incredibly aggressive with their generational goals. At the same time you have Intel moving into discrete graphics in the near future making it a 3 way party and in the background you have MCM designs such as hopper, Intelâs offerings and potentially some RDNA3 skuâs starting to look like a not too distant reality.
While we will certainly have enough VRAM to last a long while the next couple of generations of cards are going to progress performance incredibly fast as none of the companies can afford to hold back in the light of renewed competition. Equally we are at the nascent stage of raytracing and even a 3090 is arguably still very poor at it - there will be absolute leaps and bounds in raytracing performance from all sides over the next few years, as is always the case with the start of a new paradigm.
So enjoy the 3090, but the next generation will probably have you hankering for an upgrade regardless of your sizeable chunk of VRAM.
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Congratulations.
I mean situations differ at that point. My point was in raw fps there wasnât a huge difference between the 3080 and 3090. 3070 wasnât really the point of discussion lmao
Sorry. I thought that you were saying that in general, the CPU was the limiting factor. The original poster has a 2070, so the GPU (along with CPU) is a huge factor.
It occurs to me that the potential answer to my space problem is to get a x16 PCIe riser or extender. They are sold on Amazon, some up to $60 or $70 in price. That might solve the problem of potentially not having enough space across the width of 3 PCIe slots in my case. My only problem then (ha, ha, ha!) would be were and how to mount the card on my case or outside my case if I donât want to try to move everything to a new motherboard, etc.
Has anyone around here used an RTX 3090 with a x16 PCIe Gen 3 or Gen 4 riser/extender for MSFS 2020 and how did that work out?! TIA!
WellâŠsome people here runs msfs on ultra with 2080âŠsome with 2070. My question is: do you really need a 3090?
CPU is the key for MSFS, single core speed (IPC), and the bottleneck for lot of users from all the whole range of GPU we see around. End of last years I upgraded first my MB, CPU and RAM and kept my GTX1080 for several month. It was enough to crank all settings up and get 50/60fps nearly everywhere. Now with the RTX 3070 itâs even better but the big change was with the CPU upgrade.
If you can afford an RTX 3090 obviously youâll be able to raise more settings, doing 4K, or more like I target myself : play VR more comfortably.
I was so tempted by a 10900k, yet couldnât bring myself to put some crappy liquid cooler in the mix. I think intel is the way to go though.
You might as well wait and see what the DX12 path brings for performance now, AMD may still be on top.
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Sorry for the late resonse, but yes, Iâve used both PCIE3 and 4 riser cables with the 3090.
In terms of performance difference, the loss is negligible between gen 3 and 4. However, itâs a pain when it comes to setting the motherboard. GEN 3 riser would read the card with BIOS settings on AUTO.
GEN 4 riser(the LINKUP brand) is solid and works well, while claiming PCI4 X16
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For price to performance, when DX12 comes out, I think AMD cards will be best positioned for MSFS. However, if price is not an object I can imagine that a 3090 and DX12 will still bring out the greatest performance.
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Intel might be the way to goâŠlater this year for Alder Lake which combines 10nm fab process, pcie 5.0 and DDR5 support.
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I support upgrading to an RTX 3090 and also ensuring you have CPU and RAM to match. Yes it is expensive but what price the enjoyment of escaping into a ârealisticâ virtual world of endless adventures. For VFR âeye candyâ Iâm driving a large screen TV (55inch) of 3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz and all MSFS settings on ultra. Beautiful! For VR I run the Reverb G2 and can get quite smooth at OXR 100% and TAA 100% with mainly High settings. Some of settings are Ultra especially Clouds as the experience in VR of cloud soaring is great. For me, VR is less about âeye candyâ and more about getting a smooth ride with scenery looking as ârealâ as possible so the experience feels ârealâ. It takes quite a bit of effort to get the âsweet spotâ for your particular rig specification and the efforts of many in this forum and others who share their experiences is fantastic.
In particular, I thank CptLucky8 for getting me beyond the initial frustration of firing up the Reverb G2 and not getting the increase in visual performance that I expected, updating from a Rift.
One tip that I found to be quite noticeable is that all non-essential Windows processes should be stopped, windows setup for performance and RAM cleared of non-essential performance sapping data. I have a Asus TUF 3090 and the Asus GPU TweakII app does that well when switching to gaming mode. As many as 30 - 40 windows apps are halted when Tweaked.
MSFS may not yet be optimised for CPU and the frequent updates requiring resetting all game parameters is quite frustrating. Happy to live with that as âimprovementsâ can only make VR flying more enjoyable and ârealisticâ. My opinion is that you get a RTX 3090 and you wil not regret it.
28Apr21 Update: since the last âperformanceâ upgrade to MSFS I can no longer get the VR to work at the settings prior to the update. Settings for PC still work fine and the Reverb G2 still works well with all other apps. Did I miss something? Ah well back to the arduous task of looking for the right combination of settings to optimise the VR experience. So disappointing when all I wanted to do was a VR flight at sunset from my local airfield on a day with towering isolated cumulus. By the time I tried many different combinations and tweaks, the sun had set and all over!
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I have a full tower case and Asus Z490 MoBo. It was still tight fit but the closeness of the SSD cradles allowed a support bracket to hold up the end of the card. Not sure if it was needed but corrected a considerable amount of sag.
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Iâm wondering where people are even finding RTX 3090s to buy. Iâm willing to buy an RTX 3090, but I canât find them anywhere. Any tips?
Regarding which PSU is right for a given combo of computer and GPU is, I am afraid, not just a matter
of the wattage alone.
Sure, adding up the wattage requirements of all the components might throw up a figure
of say 850 watts.
But bear in mind that there are 850 watt PSUâs and there are 850 watt PSUâs. By which I mean
not all PSUâs are equal.
Itâs about the current capacity and the number of rails available.
But rather than blather on here, my best advice is to do a little on-line research.
Though I will say this: Think about an amplifier. You wouldnât buy a 50 watt amp to listen to music at 50 watts. Why, because the amp would be operating at the ragged edge, causing distortion and reducing
the lifetime of the amp. Instead a more powerful amp would better do the job.
And so it is with PSUâs. So if the maths says 850 watts get a 900 watt or better still a 1K watt. That overhead will allow for a much better and reliable performance.
And in the long term you will save money because a high spec PSU will likely span an upgrade or two.
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