Advice sought on flight training 'dead stick' landing

I’m having difficulty nailing this lesson successfully. I’ve done the others up to it with (eventually) an A.
I seem to be able to control the glide path on about 50% of the attempts but the flare is the problem. The instructor explains what’s necessary and what the flare is and then later says, ‘we are coming up to the flare [ten feet] but resist the temptation to pull up early’. I’ve tried this a couple of times but crash into the runway almost before the instruction is finished, so in order to keep the aircraft airborne, I’ve pulled up a little. Then when the time comes to ‘look at the end of the runway pull up gently’ instruction, one hears the engine noise drop as the software presumably takes cont ol of the throttle and at that point efforts to make an accurate pull up don’t work for me. It seems as though the softwate and AI voice is ahead of where my plane is and that after I pull up nothing that I do has the effect that I expect. If anyone can give me assistance on this I would be grateful.
Trevor.

Keep an eye on your airspeed, and make small corrections on the controls. As long as your airspeed is above the stall speed, you should have control. If your airspeed falls to far, you will not have lift for the flare. Don’t worry too much about where you are on the runway.

Thank you OldpondGL, I’ve just checked and I am meeting the runway at 65 knots and lined up, with the two objective bars green. I just can’t understand why the instructions are out of sync with the plane’s height. I can only judge by sight when to flare because I don’t know a way to get the altimeter onto the cockpit screen.
Trevor.

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Have you set your altimeter to the correct barometric pressure?

Hello again and thank you for your reply.
I don’t think that you can reset the altimeter in the training lesson and that’s because all the parameters are set, even the time is always the same whenever you try. Anyway, I finally managed it by 2 points this afternoon. For anyone else with the same problem, I dumbed down the sensitivity on the pitch and roll and kept higher for a little longer so that I was not about to crash into the runway. I was then further along the runway when the message ‘resist the temptation to pull up’ came. At this point I could follow the instructions.
So thank you once again.
Trevor.

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I tried this lesson “Deadstick Landing” and if I do respect the 65 knots until the end, I arrive at the runway at a too high altitude, so at some time I have to plunge down quickly, or the runway will not be long enough for a complete stop. Doing so, I exceed the 65 knots.
Other times, I tried to use flaps but putting the flaps during this particular flight disturbs the glide slope and the alignement with the runway, so I lose score. Also the flare is very difficult. I keep getting low score on flare, but I don’t know why: I flare too early? too late? too hard? Not enough? I don’t know…

This one is tough for me too - I have managed most of the other training scoring an A but this one I can’t get above a B. Also I know the weather is meant to be consistent but I feel like it might change slightly.

The pre-requisite is simple: use joystick or yoke for control. Adjust the sensitivity, since the default MSFS setting is super twitchy. And if you are used to it, please use the cockpit view as much as possible. You’ll get better sense of how quick you are descending to the surface that way, since you can’t feel the G-force.

In recent updates, I can feel that Asobo now simulates “ground effect” - hence the instructor saying “resist the temptation to pull up early” or if I may add “pull up too much”. Otherwise you’ll float over the runway or bounced after the first touchdown. C-152 is a high wing plane, thus has a less pronounced ground effect, and this is also taken into account in MSFS as well, which is super nice. You need to get used to it.

I landed all the way in the middle of that Sedona airfield runway, and still gets ‘A’. Of course you will have to brake frantically after touch down.

The key is to control the speed as many others have said above.

  • You can use flaps to help to slow down further near the end, and feel how the plane reacts to it. Use trim. Mine can get as low as 58 knots to make it a more controllable descent. Flaps increases drag, but also lift, your plane will have less descent rate if you maintain the same speed with more flaps, thus to maintain the ideal glide path on dead stick landing, just time it properly
  • The flare should be gentle, not abrupt, as the momentum from abrupt yoke pull might throw off the airspeed and thus dumping some lift into imbalance causing the misalignment. Hence you probably need to adjust sensitivity if you notice erratic yoke behaviour

The weather is indeed the final factor that you probably need to brush it off with your skill.

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I remember having similar problems with the deadstick landing. I’m no expert at all, but my opinion is that if you try enough times, you will do it. I must have tried almost a hundred times, 4 or 5 times a day for nearly a month, then I gave up, re-visited at random and bingo - A. I encourage you to try all the above advice first though, it’s almost certain to be more scientific than my opinion an it might save you time. Anyway, good luck, keep trying.