Same for me
I am missing the Azurpoly C-160 Transall very much. What is the easiest way to get an overview of my MSFS2020 purchases, to compare. I am also missing the F14 and the MilTech CH-47 (at least I have a new one as replcement).
Unfortunately, it seems the ONLY real way is to load into FS2020 and see what you have listed in your Content Manager. Thatās what I had to do to catalog all that I have missing.
Or in the Market Place. Owned items can be found at the bottom of the list of each section (Aircraft, Scenery ā¦ ).
Guys, itās going to be a while. Iām not sure what all the consternation is about.
Asobo is working extremely hard to squash the rest of the bugs that are stopping 2020 planes from working, as are all the developers. But, itās not going to happen tomorrow.
What is interesting is that some planes are available to some people and not others. Iām sure Jorg will discuss that tomorrow, because it makes absolutely no sense. The DLX and PD planes should be available to all who purchased, same with the LL and FF. I know I have them, though I havenāt searched my whole list to say I have 100% of themā¦ Iāll do that tonight.
But, by and large, except for a couple vendors like Carenado, most 3rd party planes are not yet working at 100%, and therefore not yet available to anyone.
From what Iām seeing, theyāve squashed an absolute ton of bugs in next weekās update. Iād expect over the next few weeks more planes will become available.
But, personally, I wouldnāt expect them to be fully working until January or February. Thereās a lot of work to be done, a lot of bugs developers are finding. Itās what happens when you develop anything. Customers end up finding ways to do things with your product you never dreamed they would. So theyāre working on fixing features that edge case uses uncovered bugs.
And then thereās some decisions that you wonder what they were thinking. <If you fly over the normal operating speed, itāll cause a failure in your plane> kind of thing 
Some things it seems to be hard for the Asobo devs to come around to understand. Maybe itās the language barrier? But no worries, they are.
Point beingā¦ You donāt want your planes to be available yet. Give it some time and play with watchya got.
I think the last of my Marketplace aircraft showed up this afternoon. I had a yellow dot in the simās notification panel when I loaded in. I got the message Iāve seen several times before that my FS2020 content would be available after a restart. Following a restart of the sim, I now finally see the Caribou, AN 225, Staggerwing, Beech 18, Ford Tri-Motor, and JU-52. I believe thatās the last of my aircraft purchases to become available.
Iām still missing some Marketplace sceneries that donāt even show in the Library yet; I expect MS has delayed further Marketplace scenery transfers until they add the functionality to disable specific items. Once that function is enabled, I believe they will continue making FS2020 Marketplace scenery items available, but thatās just a hunch for now.
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My Beech 17 and 18 showed up today, Only missing one plane now, the Big Radials P-40.
So, I checked, Iāve had all my aircraft since day one (after a couple of restarts) when I got my code last wednesday.
Youāre correct on your hunch.
@SgtDinkyDuck I wouldnāt expect packages like the Big Radials stuff for a while. Lotās of discussion on their discord right up until 11/19, then nothing since then. So, no idea whatās up with them.
I think that for all the Asobo/Microsoft paywares, there is no need to worry about it. if it is missing, then it probably has a good reason, and their owners will get it as soon as it is ready.
But it would be a totally different story for third-party paywares. As Asoboās decision to let third parties decide what to do with their 2020 products in 2024 is giving their owners justifiable anxiety when they find their payware totally missing from the 2024 library.
Of course, most third-party developers make the ethical choice of migrating their 2020 products to 2024 and fixing bugs related to it. Nevertheless, there might be a few who choose to not do so but instead sell it again in 2024, or even completely abandon their 2020 products in 2024.
So there is very much a need for players to share and discuss related missing third-party payware information.
Microsoft/Asobo planes? No, I donāt understand why everyone doesnāt have them. Itās probably some Marketplace license glitch
Third Party planes? You donāt want them yet. Thereās a bunch of fixes required, and many/all of the third party vendors are working on fixing issues that are popping up, on their end, or reporting issues to the SDK team, who are banging out fixes left and right. Some developers are finding errors in their code that 2020 let slip for instance, but now 2024 is being much more strict about data/calculations nowā¦ which is a good thingā¦ ultimately, there will be less crashes if planes arenāt creating bad data.
We definitely wonāt be getting many planes until next week, after the first real update. A few, like Hangar 713 has been working hard developing workarounds to compatibility mode for his planes and feels good about his. But, otherwise, theyāre working at it and itās going to be a while. Scenery, definitely wonāt be showing up until after next weekās update. Too much of a chance of CTDās with 2020 addons in 2024. I donāt think Asobo understood how bad the quality was of many addons. So weāll need to be able to turn them off. And figuring out which ones to turn off is going to beā¦ fun.
So, no, I donāt think thereās much to discuss or anything to worry about, per se, about why planes are missing. Itās a purposeful choice thatās in your best interests. The planes arenāt here yet, and they wonāt be for a bit, and talking about it wonāt make it happen any faster. But, discuss away if youāre bored.
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It really shouldnāt be too hard, especially since they will be adding a Safe Mode startup.
So, launch in Safe Mode, enable half of your sceneries, exit the sim and restart. If you have a hang during startup, launch in Safe Mode again and enable only half of the first set. Repeat until you find the offending issue. If no hang, start enabling other items in small sets until you find a problem. Etc.
In principle, it will exactly the same as what people have been doing for literally years with stuff in Community folders causing issues.
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Yep, like I said, itās going to be fun.
I bet a lot of issues will be interaction issues across packages, so, since nobody has the same combinations of addons, some might work for some and not others. That kind of thing.
This will be so much more pleasant to do in 2024 with the faster load time.
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Indeed. My (timed) starts in FS2024 have been between 3 minutes 30 seconds, to about 3minutes 50 seconds. I hope that time does not get longer once our Marketplace scenery items are re-enabled and my missing sceneries are added.
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Iām still missing 4 planes and 12 sceneries, and 1 add on- Trains
Iām not a fan of this streaming concept & that Microsoft has control of turning on and off your add ons. 2020 was better, smoother cause local storage, you always had access to use your add ons, whether they functions fully was up to you. now on a whim they can just disable stuff
in a week I only gained the AN225. if they keep this disabled stuff past next weeks update & continue to have the market closed, thats really a problem
Funny thing is this is one of the main reasons I have persisted. You get very accustomed to <3 min sim boot times. There are however no AI aircraft models being loaded right now though.
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Oh good gravy YES. Iāve said this elsewhere, but the performance difference for me between 2020 and 2024 is VAST.
In 2020, I had a startup time in the 10-minute range or so, and I had to do an enormous amount of fine tuning and experimentation in dev mode to get a graphics setup that, with most payware airports and/or aircraft, would get me to about 15fps. (In brief, I rendered at below my native resolution and upscaled to native, because I had plenty of headroom on my graphics card but was heavily CPU-limited.)
In 2024, using the āhigh-endā graphical preset (which is significantly higher than what I was using in 2020) and having every payware product that works in 2024 loaded up, plus a bunch of 2020 asset packs and freeware things, and FSHud pushing AIG traffic into the simulator, and Active Sky runningā¦ Iām getting a consistent 30fps on the ground, with 40-50fps at altitude.
The only reason I havenāt uninstalled 2020 (and reclaimed the 150Gb or so itās occupying) is for the PMDG 737 and 777. Once theyāre brought into 2024 (or PMDG releases new versions for 2024)ā¦ Iām never looking back.
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And the ironic thing is that up until I tried 2024 for the first time, I was basically assuming that (a) it was going to perform worse on my system because of the higher level of detail, and (b) that Iād be staying on 2020 for the foreseeable future, or until I built a new computer for flightsim purposes. Which I was planning to do. Now, Iām not. I donāt need it anymore.
Similar. Once all is settled and all my add ons are in 2024, whether simply ported or upgraded & the sim is smoother, then I will also uninstall 2020.
The loading speeds, new world and more are reasons to leave 2020 imo.
Basically the same for me, along with the iFly Max. Besides the vastly-faster startup times, my performance in FS2024 is light-years better than FS2020. Once those handful of aircraft are compatible, Iām deleting all several hundred gigabytes worth of FS2020 off my drive.