I was testing with the 172 classic.
As Iāve already said, it happens with all the G1000 units, Stock, 0.4.0 and Nxi. Also with the GNS530/430 as PZL104 just reported.
And you were just tuning with the NAV radio and CDI, not using the embedded GPS?
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Yes, CDI set to NAV1 and NAV1 set to the ILS freq. Green line appears in the HSI as expected.
Correct. No GPS. (I donāt think that GS tracking is possible with the GPS)
Noticed an interesting bug with the 172 classic.
Pushing the AP button with the mouse will only momentarily engage the AP, but it immediately disengages again.
I have to use Z to keep it engaged.
In your case you were using NXi right? If the course looks āoffā itās the auto slew not being enabled in code yet.
I canāt speak to @PZL104ās findings, I donāt fly too many analog cockpits now except for the 152 and thatās for VFR only.
I have said it three times now. I will say it again if it wasnāt clear. Iāve tested this with all three G1000 configurations. Stock, 0.4.0 and Nxi. The behaviour is the same on all of them. Itās not related to the CDI not being aligned with the runway on the Nxi. The AP is not able to keep the plane on the ILS.
Just tried LOWW ILS 29 with the default 208ā¦same problem.
LOC intercept logic has been flawed since the first SU5 (or even SU4) as well on all aircraft.
(Intercept angle decreasing after capture)
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I canāt recreate it. I shot a series of āStandardizedā flights that I perform with any new Sim Update. Stock, 0.4.0, and NXi. Other than the auto-slew exception on NXi, ILS guides as expected. Thatās not to say youāre not having problems, but I canāt recreate it on my end.
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@CasualClick the problem is for me that the AP ILS tracking is inconsistent.
Sometimes itās perfectly centered and on other occasions the tracking is off.
What might be contributing to the ILS problems are repeated approaches and using the slew function to reposition the aircraft.
ILS tracking becomes worse with every reset.
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I tried NXi as suggested and Auto Pilot still does not work correctly for me. The airplane on NAV still will not follow the magenta line, or even close to it, and itās not a matter of parallax either. Iāve installed and restarted the computer several times, then deleted and repeated the process. I fly mostly the Cessna Caravan, but the AP doesnāt work properly on the 930 either. Iāve had MSFS since Sept '20 and have never had a problem with the AP until Update 5. It is obvious that they changed something. Now, I end up many miles from my destination.
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I have had the problem of ap not following set nav points
in a320 i program my nav points via flight computer as i would pre u5 all starts well but after reaching altitude of 20.000 ap stops following the nav points i have found if you open the flight assistant from the drop down menu and select all options course correction start with ai pilot
with auto pilot and throttle turned off i deselect all options in the flight assistant dropdown menu.
after i turn on auto p and throttle all works as it should
i hope others try this and confirm
nope still no good
I assume you are talking about GPS flying?
I use autopilot all the time. Almost exclusively use GA airplanes.
Always use autopilot BUT in NAV mode.
So that is different. Follows heading,altitude,ILS landing etc perfectly.
But I assume you are referring to flying GPS ?
In GPS there seems nothing to do for me but just sit and watch so using autopilot in NAV mode is my preference. But has never failed me. I dial in a heading and autopilot follows it. Same with altitude.
I also can confirm autopilot issues after Update 5. It is completely off course. I only can do headings anymore. Also it looks that the correct distance to the airport ( NM ) is also not correct anymore. Really annoying.
Hey developers, letās make October and November fix the autopilot season! You can do it. I have faith.
Most important to me are the Cubcrafter, the King Air, the Citations and the airliners.
At some point, the manual course heading setting got broken. I used it with wing leveler and altitude hold. Best way to explore.
I have a nice system now and with water cooling, I can run all day long. There is lots to see.
The visuals of the game are in pretty good shape. But we canāt tour using the thumbwheels yet.
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Same here auto pilot is not working so stopt playing fs is so depresing.
Been like this for well over a year. Guess it is the least of their priorities. Good news is that xplane 12 has been announced.
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That is good news. I really want to love Microsoft but I find myself getting more and more frustrated almost every time I use it. X Plane has its faults for sure and is not immune to the constant updates breaking things but at least the core of the sim (the avionics and flight model) is pretty solid.
I look back over the last year and in my eyes what has been presented publicly is a race to improve what was already ground breaking graphics with an amazing weather engine. It really was so far ahead of anything else it should have been the nail in the coffin for all other flight sims. All they had to do (and I say this with a pinch of salt as itās no easy task) was get the flight model as close as possible and bring the avionics up to scratch.
A year on a the engine logic still isnāt correct. The avionics have just enough functionality to make them work (when theyāre not broken). Iām not going to list all the faults but Iām struggling to understand why (publicly at least) the majority of focus has been on the many world updates when the core of the sim [a year on] is still so flawed?
Iāll say it again, this was so far ahead of the game when released it should have put all other sims to bed. No-one else can compete with the amazing weather engine, the lighting, the Orbx style scenery covering the whole planet or the financial might of Microsoft. And yet, theyāve left the door wide open because of mediocre avionics and blah, blah, blah, youāve heard it all before. You sure can tell this game direction is run by a corporate and not a private company.
As for me, Iām waiting for X-soft to be released. The stunning beauty of Microsoft flight simulator 2020 with the airplane functionality of X-Plane.
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silentsinger75ā¦ Thank you for your post calling out what is and what is not happening with MSFS2020. Is MSFS2020 a flight simulator or a video game? The developers spend ridiculous amounts of resources on world updates where the focus is on scenery and ābespokeā airports but almost no time developing airplanes and avionics as well as fixing other practical issues with the software. A decade or so ago FSX had flight model and avionics that pretty well matched the real world. At the time I was flying FSX I was also flying a real Cirrus SR22. My FSX SR22 was all add-on aircraft and avionics but was spot on to my real airplane. I flew the FSX SR22 for countless hours and it kept me proficient in the real airplane. The FS2020 version of the SR22 is joke. It is a Gen2 model with Gen3 avionics, i.e., Garmin G1000 when it should have an Avidyne PFD/MFD. The current implementation of the G1000 is the biggest joke of them all. Neither the NXi version or the latest Working Title version have fully implemented the features and some of the implemented features are defective. Since the last āmandatoryā update most of my attempts to fly in FS2020 have ended in CDT. Today, I finally completed a flight without CDT from KMKC to KGBD routed through VORās TOP and SLN. Just past SLN and about 50 miles from the destination I activated the ILS RW35 approach. Even though I was already past SLN the GPS routed the approach back through SLN. Itās idiotic. Not only does the FS2020 SR22 have a Gen2 base airplane with Gen3 avionics but the engine modeling is also just wrong. Until the last update the engine was in no way producing the 310 horsepower the real Gen2 Continental IO-550 engine produced and it would not power up to the full 2,700 rpm at which the real SR22 climbs to cruise altitude. At the time at least the prop speed was otherwise responsive to throttle changes. In an SR22, there is no propeller speed lever. Propeller speed is integrated with the throttle. Now, after the latest update the engine is producing more power but the propeller speed is now locked at 2,700 rpm from around 30 percent power to 100 percent power. After reaching cruise altitude an SR22 pilot is taught to throttle back to 2,500 rpm. Again, this is all idiotic and all the more so because the technology to get all of this correctly implemented was nearly perfect in FSX years ago. I only purchased the Premium version of FS2020 because it included the SR22. It was surprising and totally disappointing to try to fly the incredibly poorly implemented SR22 in a beautifully implemented world with an amazing weather engine with an airplane that is basically junk. I have been expecting the developers to fix the obvious defects but all they seem to do is focus on world updates and bespoke airports. None of that matters to me because I like to fly in instrument meteorological conditions so Iām usually in the clouds and canāt see the scenery anyway. If the developers donāt fix the airplanes and avionics soon then Iām going to start researching other platforms such as X-Plane. As for my pilot log, I have 81 hours of recorded flight time. I probably have 200 hours or more of unrecorded time troubleshooting the simulation. Since the simulation loads so slowly and troubleshooting defective results often also requires rebooting the computer it takes forever to run a cycle of starting the sim and flying the airplane until CTD or some other problem occurs and then tweaking something in the community folder and then doing it again until the source of the problem is revealed. My request to the developers in order is:
- Fix the avionics. Itās not rocket science as it has been done before.
- Fix the flight model and engine performance.
- Stabilize the simulation to prevent CTD.
- Speed up the load times.
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