After all the benchmarks I am thinking of upgrading my 5600x to a 5800x3d, since a lot of times I seem MainThread Limited and the GPU not fully utilized. I have a B550 chipset and an RTX 3080 in my system. I play 2D (1440p ultrawide) or VR (Reverb G2) and mostly airliner (Fenix A320) with a few addons like FSLTL.
At the moment the step towards an Zen4 platform seems to expensive at the moment, thats why a had a look into the 5800x3d CPU.
What do you guys think, how much performance improvement I could expect from this change? Has anyone allready made a move like this and what were the results?
You having a 3080 makes it worth it but I have my doubts it can do much for anything less than a 3070 (unless @ 1080p). At least that’s for GA, airliners with all the trimmings will always profit from a stronger cpu.
I have an rtx3060 paired with a normal 5800X and I can’t honestly see where I could squeeze any more frames out of it. Large airports like KLAX for sure but probably no more than 5fps and anyway I mostly fly gliders from small strips.
I woudn’t mind testing this so if anyone (in the EU) has an X3D lying around to lend me for a few days then message me, naturally I can pay for shipping (both ways)
I have a 5600x and a RTX 3070 and I’m also thinking about upgrading to 58003D. I dont want to change my mainboard so this is the best upgrade I can make.
Hoping for more fps in airliners ans big airports!
I’ve got a 5600X paired with a 3080 and will definitely upgrade at some point. Having read the 5800X3D threads here it seems like you get between a 7-10fps increase in CPU heavy situations. The big improvement though comes from over all smoothness of the sim. I don’t know about you but I get pretty severe stutters with my 5600X in some situations. The larger cache of the 5800X3D seems to get rid of all that.
It definitely seems like a worthwhile upgrade as of right now.
I’ve got my eye on the new 7 series 3D chips but its a more expensive upgrade, obviously. New CPU, motherboard and RAM. The one thing I’ve got at the back of my mind is that I can off set the price by selling off my 5600X, MB and RAM and currently will get a decent price for it. By the looks of things up to £400 if I was lucky.
My thinking is: if have to change Mainboard, RAM and CPU i might as well get a new computer. I’m very glad that there is an option to upgrade our 5600x without going Zen4.
Of course it will be better than your 5600X but IMO compared to a regular 5800X anything less than an rtx3070 isn’t likely to see that much of a boost (or at least not with high graphic settings and resolutions). A gpu limited system can’t just magic extra frames without running considerably hotter and is likely to throttle because of it.
I agree and despite all I’ve said I will probably get one once prices have bottomed out … along with prices for a 3080ti as it should be a great match.
When I upgraded to the 5800X3D from an i9 10850K, I achieved a substantial boost in performance in 2D, especially with CPU use heavy aircraft like the Inibuilds A310. In VR, I achieved a negligible performance boost (upgrading to a 4080 did that for me), but it was significantly smoother.
Overall, the 5800X3D was a very worthwhile upgrade, even if it meant having to change motherboard. For those already with an AM4 system, it’s even more compelling.
Just buy it. You will see a worthwhile difference, it’ll keep you going for the next 2 years at least and saves you buying a whole new system. Frames will increase but lock it down for stability.
Also, as others have said, search the forums. Lots of owners giving their experiences, including myself. I now have a Word document with these buzz words in as this question comes up at least once a month.
For sure but that’s going to depend very much on resolution, graphic settings, where you fly and what in. FYI in all benchmarks I’ve seen my PBO -30 all core undervolted 5800X can match any stock 5950X.
As an example of the performance boost I achieved in 2D in upgrading my CPU is in the A310, KLAX Gate E 10, High Graphics Preset, Broken Clouds Preset, MP with 24 AC, FSLTL (20 IFR 10 VFR 3 parked 50km radius, no blank or generic), TAA, 4K:
i9 10850K - 25 FPS and 45% GPU load with a 3080
5800X3D - 39 FPS and 55% GPU load with a 4080
ie. a 56% boost in FPS in a heavily CPU bound scenario (so GPU differences shouldn’t matter much), not to mention so much smoother. Also, the 4080 result is without frame generation, which would push my FPS up to 78 FPS if it was enabled.
You obviously have plenty of gpu capacity so I don’t understand why only the high graphics preset? … IMO you should max out the graphics including texture filtering in NVCP set to high quality. This shouldn’t affect fps but if it does then clouds back to high should suffice… Simply put, the harder your gpu works then the more headroom for LOD and traffic.
This was a test scenario, with not my normal settings, to determine how much of an improvement I achieved in a clearly CPU bound scenario. With my usual settings and where/what I fly the most, I am most often GPU limited.
Around 35-38 on the ground at custom airports, so motion reprojection helps a lot. Also the terrain and object LOD are the biggest leverage in my experience.
When i look at Performance in AMD Software i notice CPU Utilization is only 5% and GPU is about 70%.
Why is my CPU only being used that little? I thought FS2020 was pretty demanding on the CPU.
Many games like MSFS are mainly limited by single CPU thread performance. Given the 5800x3D has 8 cores/16 threads, if the main “world” thread is maxed out, that is 1/16 of total which is about 6.25% of total CPU utilization.