Title says it all, I’m hoping someone will get around to releasing a 402 (they are flow extensively by my local regional airline - Cape Air). Any ideas?
Don’t think there has been any news since your original post last July.
Thanks, was just hoping someone might have decided to develop one since then.
You can stay up to date with what is currently out here;
Flysimware has the Cessna 402:
…and the Cessna 414 Chancellor:
https://flysimware.com/website2019/flysimwares-cessna-414a-chancellor-msfs2020/
And Flysimware is really REALLY good (but Carenado is still the one and only development team who has managed to bring on a 75% functional weather radar).
Flysimware will surely bring their 402 next to the Flight Sim 20.
Thanks for the info. The 414 is pretty impressive (minus some handling issues that need a patch). I’d love to see them release a 402.
That’s what I’ve been hoping (Flysimware will bring theirs).
But, technically, while they still fly a ton of C402’s, Cape Air is transitioning to the Tecnam P2012… anyone doing that plane?
The Tecnam would be nice but there is no substitute for one of those old 402’s flying out to foggy ACK.
Surprised by Cape Air’s choice to stay with piston engines, always assumed that the 402 replacement would be turbine-powered.
My bet is they expect to keep these a long time (like the C402’s), and over a long period, maintaining the pistons must be much cheaper, and likely gas prices cheaper as well?
I could imagine FlySimWare bringing their C402 over. But honestly I cannot see why: maybe I’m missing something, but I don‘t really see enough of a difference over the C414 to make it worth my while. Same size and gross weight, almost the same power, range and ceiling. Only real differences: C414 is pressurised, has fewer seats and is more luxurious inside. All of which is hard to simulate (apart from adding weight for the passengers).
All the more reason why they should. Minimal costs to mod their existing 414. I don’t see a major downside and it gives FSW the opportunity to maximize the money spent developing the 414.
Different engines, tend to be more beat up,…
And, you clearly don’t live in the Northeast US where we all dream of being Cape Air pilots flying to all the beautiful destinations around here daily, and get paid for it… And have a blast flying the Cape Air routes on BVATC as part of virtual Cape Air…
Gotta have the real thing, man!
Now add maintenance and failures, and we’ve got a total winner.
From first-hand experience with the company many years ago, I can say that you are quite correct with the cost of turbine maintenance being the single biggest reason why they stay with recip’s. For a long time, most folks just assumed that they would transition to B1900’s but Dan Wolf was an incredibly smart and disciplined businessman that was very observant of the mistakes that other regionals had made.
I would personally love to see Alice blow away the competition to become the new top dog on the ramp at KHYA but I keep my expectations tempered when it comes to groundbreaking aircraft designs!
They’re still in business, right?!
So many gone.
Not looking good so far for the Tecnam… Hope it works out.
Yes, the Eviation Alice is still in the pipeline. It has undergone significant changes in design which include moving the engines from the wings to the empennage in a more conventional fashion. The deal for Cape Air, (previously unconfirmed) has been formally announced. I hope it works out. It would be very exciting to see our aviation industry take a step forward in the direction that it has to go in order to survive in the future.
But, as I mentioned earlier, I have very tempered expectations when it comes to new aircraft design. Bringing a new model into operational use is extremely difficult and requires very very deep pockets of money. And that is without an accompanying leap in propulsive technology. The road ahead is a hard one that will be filled with service bulletins and lessons learned in hindsight but that is what progress is all about in aviation!
Truth.
Ahh, I saw mention of them going electric, but the Tecnam P2012 wasn’t so I was confused…
What’s the future for the P2012’s then? Or was the idea that the C402’s needed replacing, but, the Alice wasn’t ready so the P2012’s are a stopgap?
I think the Tecnam’s are a solid replacement for the 402 while the Alice is more of a hopeful progression at this point. I have no idea of how many 402’s they have now but there is a large number that need replacement and the Alice is much too new of technology to be a viable one-for-one replacement option. I am sure that, provided the Alice makes it through the certification process, it will have to prove that it is capable of the insane dispatch rates that they run before the company starts replacing the workhorses with them. So I think it is a situation where the Tecnam has a role to fill now while the Alice is hoping to have a role in the future.
Does Cape Air still fly out of Terminal A at Logan? I haven’t been to the airport in years… I think they’ve actually built an addition to A since I’ve been in that terminal!
Edit: but in Ye Olden Daze, Terminal A is almost the only one I ever used, because the Eastern shuttle was there (until they folded), and Continental (whom I flew frequently from LA to Boston) was in there before Delta took the whole thing over (seemingly).
Cape Air now flies out of Terminal C.