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No Addon on my System
Which aircraft are you reporting an issue about? (Please also add the proper tag for it)
787 & 747
Brief description of the issue:
After this update, arming of the auto spoilers is malfunctioning. As you are on short final, they start to click and constantly reset and this lasts all the way until land and stop on the runway. Was not doing this before the update.
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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:
Every time you land and arm the spoilers on the 787 & 747 only.
PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:
Modern fast computer
Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:
Current
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My 787 spoiler handle actuation has been reversed since aau2 eg i must push up on the controller not pull, and whatâs with the rudder upon touchdown, that was quite the shock.
Hi,
This update actually made worst.
1)Joke and throttle not moving in cockpit (outside no isues). Iâm using Airbus Trustmaster.
2)Seat belt - no sound
3)Radio com - INOP (why? on old version at least was visible frequencies)
4)Canât turn off ââexternal power buttonââ when APU running.
5)Can open reverse trust on both engine on aircraft without power (visible otside)
6)Still clock (reset?)
âŠand this is my 5 minutes testing new 787 without take off
Wish to backup to old versionâŠ
I know, this update really messed up a lot of things that were working like a charm. Try switching your assignment from âSet Auto Spoilers Armingâ to âToggle Arm Spoilersâ(Iâm using the Honeycomb Bravo). This a least got the Spoiler arming to work, even though you keep hearing a clicking sound like if the arming was constantly resetting itself until almost to the point were you come to a complete stop. Another thing that bothers me, is that they removed some of the GPWS Altitude callouts during landing. We lost the 400,300,200,and 100ft callouts. Iâm hoping that they fix all this quickly. Regards.
Mario
Well, when you spend a little more than 5 minutes on this plane, youâll realize that the update messed up a lot more stuff that was working perfectly before. For example, the arming of the spoilers is now not functioning correctly, the GPWS Landing Altitude Callouts are not complete anymore (we lost the 400,300,200, and 100ft callouts, and upon landing, youâll notice that the plane is a lot more switchy & and sensitive than before (kind of like the A-310 is). Anyway, I hope that MS and Asobo listens to our concerns and fixes these items before putting out more stuff. Regards.
Mario
Yeah, have the same problem with the spoilers on my 747, and the controls have also been reversed since the update as well, I have to push the stick up instead of down to deploy the spoilers. And the VFR doesnât do a route for me like it did before the update as well
Iâm hoping that since MS is seeing from our posts that they have messed up a few things that were working fine before and now are not, that they will take note and fix these things quickly for us. I know that they added other features to the B-787 & B-747 that are good, but they shouldnât come at the expense of breaking others. Iâm hoping for the best (that theyâll fix these things fast). Regards.
Mario
Hi,
If developers reading this, they should reverse 787 to old version and not to upload new version until fully tested and approved. Premium deluxe pack purchased for MSFS should be premium deluxe not a scrap.
I flew the 787 and the 747 on identical legs this weekend (Anchorage to Singapore). I also have the Airbus Thrustmaster joystick and throttle quad. The 787 behaved perfectly well. I was very impressed. I had no trouble with the spoilers, and the VNAV profile was followed correctly.
The 747 was more problematic. Before takeoff I noticed that the spoilers would fully extend if the throttles were at Idle (and the spoiler lever in the cockpit would move all the way back - pushing it forward would immediately be overridden. I deleted all keyboard and controller assignments to the spoilers, and the problem persisted. But I took off anyway, and had no trouble all the way until top of descent. I initiated descent in VNAV mode at the predicted T/D point, but the descent path was too steep. Gross overspeed (up to 410+ knots even with spoilers manually extended) FLCH mode was no better. I disconnected VNAV and manually reduced speed to 210 knots with 10 flaps, and tried VNAV again. I still got gross overspeed even with flaps and spoilers extended (over 260 knots). Then, on final approach, I armed the spoliers (using the cockpit lever) and noticed that the spoilers remained slightly extended the whole time, and did not automatically extend on landing.
So thumbs up from me for the 787, but still some big VNAV and spoiler bugs to work out with the 747.
Glad that you had luck with the B787. For me, as I explained, the spoiler problem is identical on the 787 as it is on the 747. I donât seem to have your problem of the airspeed issue, though.
My other quirk is that they made the 787 a little too sensitive to rudder inputs on the runway with this update. Before the update, it was perfect, now itâs not (at least, they didnât mess with this on the 747).
Anyway, hope that MS and Asobo are listening and correct these issues quickly.
Regards.
Hi,
With todayâs (7/2/23 or 7/3/23) update, I was hoping that MS/Asobo would have fixed the 747 & 787 issue with the Spoilers Arming, where they are constantly resetting and making a repetitive sound on final & upon touchdown, but no such luck. The problem persists.
Similar behaviour here. I can only use spoilers if my throttles are at idle. If it is not idle, then the spoilers will keep trying to go to the disarmed position, making that constant click.
Also, I noticed some more weird behaviours on the 747. If I manually set (with my mouse) either the throttle 2 or the throttle 4 to max reverse, the spoilers will go to full deployed position.
Iâm using the airbus TCA. That behaviour is consistent even if I disconnect my quadrant.
Right now, the 747 is completely unplayable for me. The 787 is manageable.
One thing I have noticed recently is that MSFS has gotten very fussy about your various presets under Control Options. For instance, I used to have presets for the PMDG 737 which used to work for all variants (I have the -700 and -800). But recently I have found that some of the assignments get a bit wonky if not used with the particular model used when assigning them. So I have to have separate profiles for the PMDG 737-700 and the PMDG 737-800. Maybe that has something to do with this issue?
By rudder, do you mean it goes wonky and pulls off the runway? I was just looking to see if that is posted, and your issues sounds like mine. I had only just gotten 787 to work after figuring out what add on kept me from turning on battery.
Also hen I his LLEGG, going into Miami, I had a time with the nav points because it stopped following them. After a couple minutes I got it to follow the next point.
In my case I disconnected all the hardware (keyboard, joystick, pedals, throttleâŠ) except my mouse. The problem still persists. So it is very unlikely that it is a binding problem.
So youâve established itâs not your hardware and you think itâs not a key bind. Most people seem to be able to fly and land the aircraft with no problem so itâs not the aircraft itself.
The only thing left I can think of is your technique. Can you provide a video showing us how you encounter the problem?
This is correct behavior, per the FCOM. Spoilers are driven to UP position upon engaging reverse with those engines. This is as a backup to spoiler arm, in case the pilot forgets to put the spoilers to the arm position.
Those callouts are not present, again per the FCOM.
Please ensure you are not using a third party sound pack, like FTSim. The chimes are present in the stock sound pack and are working.
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