ATC Dropping My IFR Flight Plan

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Brief description of the issue:

While in flight at cruise altitude, ATC suddenly gives me the “flight following” option and nothing else. My IFR flightplan disappears and all I have is “nearest airports” list.

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Climb to cruise altitude. Fly for a while

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Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

Updated SU9

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What Plane?
IFR AP?
Responding to ATC or AI ATC?

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Aerosoft CRJ900
Sorry, IFR AP? Not sure what you mean by AP.
I was about to request a lower altitude prior to the approach and looked up to the ATC window and my only option was “nearest airport”. I lost all options to interact with ATC and ATC started treating my plan like a VFR plan. It was strange.

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That’s ok.

IFR is Instrument Flight Rules and AP is Auto Pilot.

You cannot fly your IFR Flight Plan like a VFR flight and
expect ATC to stay with you.

If you don’t communicate with ATC they will cancel your IFR Flight Plan.

If you don’t do what they request of you, they will cancel your plan. (As in, change of altitude.)

You can activate Auto ATC in the options so that your co-pilot will communicate with ATC.

But, you still must do what they tell you to do.

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Thanks MSFSRonS. Yeah it was just the “AP” I wasn’t sure about. Not sure if you meant autopilot or approach. Sometimes I may step away from the computer to do something with the kids, for example, during a flight. ATC will definitely cancel my IFR plan if I am not there to respond, but I can always reinstate it by requesting to “retry old IFR flight plan”. This time, I was sitting at my computer, and it simply switched to what would be a VFR plan without any request from ATC prior to that. It is a new phenomonon for me. I have never seen this behaviour before. I have, however, had ATC drop out on me a lot - you know, the one-sided "silent ATC’ but audible pilot/copilot responses.

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Happened again today. Dropped IFR plan. Only options: “flight Following” and “Nearest Airport List”. Ho hum… :frowning:

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And again today! Lame.

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I’ve never had it happen except one time when I did not change
altitude per ATC request.

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In that case there should be an option of “retry last IFR FP”.
Been, there, done that. there was one occasion where I went to the bathroom and ATC just had to call me during that. After three requests to acknowledge they said “ATC service terminated” and then I just use the retry IFR FP option and I’m back to normal.

Also, auto ATC doesn’t work on a number of addon planes, CRJ could be one of those (I know it doesn’t work on the PMDG 737)

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I have used that option before, “Retry Last IFR Flight Plan”. Sometimes it doesn’t work, other times it doesn’t. I tend to do longer flights and like to step away for brief periods of time. Unfortunately, the copilot ATC always seems to fail. MS/Asobo really needs to fix this. Either make it so you can always recall the flight plan if it’s cancelled, or fix the bloody copilot ATC. In older versions of the sim, I would do overnight trans continental flights. This is all but impossible in the current state of this sim.

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Moving this from bugs as this isn’t a defect in programming to #self-service:atc-traffic-navaids

It doesn’t give you the option to retry because you may be in an ATC sector of control that can’t let you refile. While it’s not a perfect copy of the real world, that’s how the sim works today.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes

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I was flying RKSI-PGUM, randomly my IFR plan dissappeared and didn’t had any other option than to just give up on using atc on that flight.
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From that screenshot, That just looks like a normal handoff with direction to “continue” to the next waypoint in your flight plan. It doesn’t require a response in the current ATC model. If you pull up the flight plan has it actually disappeared or are you still progressing to the next waypoint? You will most likely eventually get further guidance, e.g. climb, descend, change freqs, etc
Regards

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Oh, no, the atc changed the whole flight and gave me random waypoint? I don’t get it exactly but I’m sure that it wasn’t a destined waypoint. Also, no, the Atc didn’t gave me further explanation after telling me rader contact FL215 to Oakland

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From that screenshot, you are in Flight Following. There is no evidence that you ever had an IFR flight plan.

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After some research, I discovered that this was an issue caused by myself by failing to respond to the Atc on time.

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