ATR reverse still too strong!

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ATR 42/72 Series

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v1.0.36

Brief description of the issue:

When landing and setting the reverse thrust, it simply goes wild! Nothing close to the real aircraft. The NP goes above 200% and the aircraft stops within 100 meters, that’s unacceptable! If stopped, the aircraft nose even pitches up! That’s a serious bug that needs to be fixed urgently!

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Just set the reverse thrust.

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After touchdown I activated reverse and the plane immediately lifted the front wheels. Does not seem realistic to me.

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After touchdown I activated reverse and the plane immediately lifted the front wheels. Does not seem realistic to me.

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Can stop the aircraft within a few hundred feet using reverse thrust

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plus one pls fix

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Same issue here. Land, engage reverse thrust and tail hits the runway in the same way that it would if you engage reverse thrust at the stand with the parking brake on

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If you set approx. 30% of physical throttle axis into reverse, it corresponds to 100% reverse Power Lever animation in virtual cockpit. If you advance physical throttle more than 30%, it will give you even more reverse power.

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Oh wow. I did notice it went to full reverse very quickly but didn’t realise it kept going even past full. Will need to have a look at this later

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Yes I noticed this too. I flew in a real ATR (2 flights) recently and bought the sim ATR when I got home to recreate my flight.

In the real deal, it took a fair chunk of the runway to slow down on reversers. In the sim it’s like a STOL Aircraft. Way too effective and that definitely takes the excitement out of landing. Needs fixing!

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I wonder IRL, does pilots use the reverser at full power, or just enough ?

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On a short icy runway you would use full reverse

Just went on and had a shot at it. So pushing the nose down after landing does allow “full” reverse without going onto the tail. But when I say full, I don’t mean full on physical throttle lever on your desk. Full on the sim doesn’t involve much movement of the physical lever and gives 26TQ while full on the physical lever gives you 55TQ and lets you go backwards at 63kts :grin:

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So since the devs say its user error. PLease show a video how it is done. When i do a abort take off and reverse. The np goes the red around 150% and nose comes up. Pls devs and msfs people show how this is user error? I have the airbus throttles. Please show.

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NP of 150 is normal for max reverse as it should be. Need to push forward on the yoke to keep the nose down as the height of the props above the ground creating a huge amount of drag will cause the rest of the plane to slide under them raising the nose

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With even the slightest reverse active it stops like a STOL. I doubt that this is realistic.

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The Pilot stopped in 400m using reverse, read near the end of the article :

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What is your point? Is that short (by your measure) or long? I don’t really understand what you are posting tbh.

I mean, that is nearly half a kilometre. Sounds about right from what I experienced IRL.

In the game, I can stop in about 80m.

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I’m far than being in a knowledge on this aircraft, so just posting what I’ve read and yes it appears to me, much more long runway distance than in the sim in any case. Outside the ATR, I’ve seen a jet aircraft stoping in something like 10 meters in a video stream, I think it was a F104, again not knowing it, though I feel like very dougbting … however not being an expert in any case … !!!

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10m landing distance is impossible in a jet. World record for STOL is 3m and the aircraft would have been going incredibly slowly to pull that off. An aircraft carrier arresting wire stops an F18 in just less than 100m. Distance in the sim is very hard to judge but I’d be willing to bet that your landings are much longer than you think they are. The ATR72 is almost 30m long and runways are normally about 45m wide to put size into context

Not saying the reverse isn’t overpowered as I believe that it is and it needs fixed. Just saying that it is useable if you are careful with it