A little different from the other issues that have been brought up with the Bell 407.
With the assists off, I’m able to take off and hover the Bell 407 for about a minute, but then it’ll start spinning to the right uncontrollably, with even full counter rotation input doing very little to reduce the spin.
Has anyone else also experienced this and found a fix? I tried flight model work around (the modern → legacy → 100% gyro → modern), but it didn’t help.
I don’t experience this particular issue with the Cabri G2 (though I do experience a lesser issue with power management on it).
you said after minute? Every flight started? If yes, looks like some malfunction defined in failures? I can’t imagine situations like your started at specific time…
I can imagine hover at same place with change of high voltage lines insulators, spacers this is master piloting with manual hovering at also windy conditions. I forgot to say, with voltage live
Really I’m out of ideas how to help in some topics, what strange situations can users have…
yep… not easy… if we get sometime also a damage model like in DCS ( where powerlines care ) , then we can try it in MSFS too
But, little bit more for real: may be a hardware thing can also be cause that, but then it should happen in G2 too. So not sure about the report from OP. I never noticed such behavior.
I’m not sure if it’s exactly a minute as I wasn’t using a timer, but it feels like around a minute each time this happens, and it’s mostly over airports. I’ve probably only tried around 5 times or so, but it happened every single flight on the Bell 407 when helicopter assists were turned off. The issue doesn’t appear to happen with the helicopter assists turned on. If I manage to recover from the spin, it seems like it’ll start to happen again after another minute of hovering, but not when moving.
If I give it full collective on takeoff, then it’ll enter the spin immediately. I’m pretty sure I didn’t enable any malfunctions… I see them off by default, which is what I used.
Also, around half of the hovering took place somewhat near the ground, and the other half much higher up in the air.
I just noticed that it can be avoided by keeping the collective below 50%, but this only works at low altitudes and weights, otherwise it’s not taking off… How high the collective is set also seems to affect the time it takes for it to happen. The minute of hovering was mostly with a full fuel tank, so the collective position is usually around the same when hovering.
doesnt work anyway… You can add more fuel , load and it will not affect the Bell 407 : see also
In case you switched to the G2, then you need to mention that ( also because there is a new? G2 tag on the topic, which is special for a Bell 407 ).
I will today to some deeper tests and try whether I can reproduce the behavior.
EDIT: I tried now different places and hovering a while, cant duplicate the problem you describe. So still the mentioned guess about hardware, or… no idea at the moment.
I read that sentence in a positive way… I hope OP know, that the tail rotor must allways used to compensate the movement-force indicated by the main-rotor
@Groundnet thats a Hover… does it looks like same in your case ? ( be aware of the rudder )
First couple weeks with the helicopters was great then while flying along it all of a sudden goes crazy, can fly it to some degree but very hard to land as it get very iratic and while flying it goes out of control i use a saitek x 52 pro. it take a long time to boot up and a long time to exit the game ,planes work just fine ,helicopters are my fun and im getting f–k-ng ■■■■■■ with it, when will they fix the G.B problem,
i have the same problem with the 407, full collective it spins to the right and no amount of rudder will cure that, keep it around 50% it seems “ok” but still not quite right. Im a novice with helo’s but thought i’d try this one and ran into this.
Is this accurate modeling? surely not, or something else, also dont experience it with the cabri
Im using the honeycomb alpha + bravo + MFG pedals, so i dont think its a controls issue, especially since the cabri is fine.
I had same trouble with the Bell 407 on gamepad no left rudder or very little but full right rudder…? Then i bought a hotas with pedals and throttle and stick now it flys like a boss… i also tried all different controller setups assist on and off gyro etc but on gamepad i cant fly it.
Pretty sure I mentioned that I applied full left rudder in the original post, to little effect. All it does is slow down the right rotation. Without it, it’ll spin to the right even faster.
