Test conditions:
UWQHD, High-End, TAA, DLSS/FSR deactivated, A320 v2, 12:00 UTC, scattered clouds, traffic, 120s frame time
Results: In my opinion, a pretty impressive result for AMD, considering the price difference. The 9070 XT narrowly beats the RTX 5080 by 3-5%. Results are at stock clocks and represent rasterized performance.
It would be interesting to see whether even the 5090 offers advantages performance wise. It looks like my setup runs into CPU limitation due to the resolution. My experience due to benchmarks in FS2020 shows that GPUs got only pushed to their boundaries in 4K resolution.
I have a 5070Ti, and the only reason I would consider a 5080 is to get more processing cores, especially tensor cores which enable DLSS to do its thing. With prices the way they are, this upgrade would cost more than it is worth to me today, so I will wait for the rumored “Super” cards to get both more VRAM and more tensor cores. So no, not based on only rasterization.
You can have this now using Lossless Scaling from the Steam Store. It works just fine on my RX9070. The only issue is that you have to enable it each time you start MSFS, but that is just a quick keystroke. I bought it to enable frame generation in MSFS 2020, but liked it so much I disabled FSR in MSFS 2024 and use Lossless Scaling there as well. Very small outlay to acquire, and the bonus is it works everywhere in Windows if you want it.
In my opinion it makes no sense to compare different results. Therefore comparing DLSS versus FSR wouldn’t make sense to me, since you get different picture quality.
I try to avoid upscaling, since I’m not happy with the image quality in terms of font readability. But DLSS4/FSR4 changed it definitely for the better.
I see your point, and I’m glad that it works for you.
I’m also only flying GA (having a license too) and for me, pure is the best.
FSR/DLSS still causes issues. FG makes blurriest next to moving objects and shadows. It’s distortion to my eyes. I’m happy to sacrifice a few FPS to get the real mint experience.
I’ve discovered I need to replace my GPU as it’s now failing under load. I’m looking at AMD vs a 5080. I fly exclusively in VR. I know Nvidia has historically been better for VR and Google says for wireless headsets Nvidia handles the compression better. I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know the GPU had anything to do with that…
Anyway, any thoughts currently on if the 5080 is worth the $800 upgrade over a 9070xt? Currently I have a 2nd gen 12 GB 3080 that was acceptable to me, but barely.
As you can see in the benchmark above, the 9070XT even bet the 5080 by about 3%. That’s not a big difference, but the real game changer here is price. You should save about 400-500 USD when you chose an AMD.
I would definitely go for AMD if you are not bound to Nvidia (AI or other reasons).
I just bought a new 5080. I decided over AMD because of much better VR support. I fly exclusively in VR. I would have gone AMD if it wasn’t for VR. (And I had a $1000 discount from Amazon. $900 in point rewards, $90 employee discount).
That is an old myth. I fly exclusively VR on an AMD 9070XT. I switched to AMD 8 months ago from a nvidia 4070 super and I have had absolutely no issues in FS24, IL2 nor DCS. So much so that I even forget that I have changed GPU.
No windows reinstall, no ddu. I just installed the 9070XT and its drivers and off I went.
If you don’t want to pay a premium for the AI instgram filters of DLSS5, then AMD is the logical option.
AMD support and drivers issues are unfounded old myth for 9070 series.
Fair enough. I did some searching and looked at some tests and it seemed to me Nvidia had the edge. Worth the $500? Maybe not. But this way I don’t have to worry about it. DLSS was supposed to offer better clarity and performance with Nvidia. I know not everyone wants to use that with VR, but I do.
The drivers are not an unfounded myth though. I remember reading a lot on here not so long ago about significant image quality problems with AMD drivers. I do believe they were fixed, but it took months to do it.
I’m a bit torn on it because I strongly dislike Nvidia as a company but I’ve had AMD and the Nvidia cards I’ve owned have been better with better driver support across the board.
I get your point. I was an nvidia user for 12 years and I only changed because of two reasons: recent unjustifiable prices and I do not want to support nvidia’s shady business and partners anymore. I switched only after my brother built a new PC with a 9070 and after 6 months he told me he had no issues. So I switched to the 9070XT with confidence and honestly I like the adrenaline a lot better than the nvidia app. There is no need for MSI afterburner either. the AMD adrenaline app does everything.