Very recently announced that traffic injection will be from a historical database from FR24, so not actually “live” as many were expecting/hoping.
Is it safe to assume the entirety of the historical flight will be modeled? I can see if they use a historical schedule, but the problem with a historical flight is that routes and subsequent deviations are made for a reason - weather, traffic, etc. Not having those concurrently displayed in the sim will make things seem way out of context.
Why is that flight from Dallas to Chicago flying nearly to Denver? Oh, because it’s trying to get on the back side of a cold front. But if you’re using live weather, it’s not going to make a ton of sense. Weather and traffic capacity are also the reason why real-world ATC has a hard time being automated.
I don‘t think they will inject weather that matches the situation.
Oh I highly doubt it, too, considering they haven’t figured out how to do that reliably in the base game (much less get the entire picture of live weather correct). Again, the point is that without context, some of the routing will be nonsensical.
I am really struggling financially at the moment so I would wish to keep the free fsltl injector and not purchase beyond atc. My worry is they will disable the free injector.
It’s a different company, despite one of the FSLTL devs working with BATC. Don’t think it’ll be disabled.
How can they disable something that is working on your machine? It pulls traffic data from flightplandatabase.com, not the developer’s server.
It’s not entirely clear how it will work but as far as I understand the traffic will use the original gates and the original routing, but will taxi and use runways, departures, and approaches to match the current weather. As such it will match whatever BATC is telling you to do, and will look like it should, as it is real traffic.
As to weather routing at cruise I’m sure it won’t do that, but unless your activity includes tailing an airliner to compare it to FR24 I don’t think the difference will be visible.
Regarding FSLTL I’m quite sure it’s not going to be affected by BATC, except that the majority of BATC players will stop using it as not needed.
I wouldn’t be totally surprised if at some later date it was possible to hook up FSLTL to BATC as a live traffic injector for those few that really want live traffic. After all FSLTL + FSHUD work this way and the FSLTL dev works on BATC so it would be a natural fit. They haven’t said this will happen though.
I agree the weather differences are not fine for takeoff and landing.
My worries are more about the comming MSFS 2024 and their own flightplanning tool and the new AI traffic.
Historical data on FR24 that is older than 7 days is not free. Who is going to pay for this? I hope we won’t need to pay extra for AI traffic :).
Why would you NOT expect to pay “EXTRA” for “EXTRA” stuff… or is BATC a “CHARITY” ??
Because I already paid for BATC and AI traffic is (or was) included in the basic package.
They have said they are using data source back “from a point of time in the past year”.
Ah - ok separate developer. I had heard it was the same company. That alleviates my fears a lot. Thanks!
Presumably it was live and free when they recorded it. ![]()
So basically a Ground Hog Day that repeats over and over again?
They have recruited a dev that worked on FSLTL. But they are still seperated companies/dev teams.
if you’re flying the same route at the exact same time over and over again such that you start to recognize traffic patterns then yeah. self-induced groundhog day for sure
No issue with historic traffic at all, I just want to see:
Priorities
Realistic ground ops
Realistic flight behaviour
Separation
Correct runway usage for ops, i.e. EGCC
Hopeful to see
Realistic pushback
Better startup and shutdown behaviour
Realistic turning, not R2D2 type stuff
If all the above is good, I’d be ok with flightplans from 1963 tbh. ![]()
and hopefully better “German” basic voices