Big cities/Major airports are "fogged out"

[sehnsedahamses]

I notice this phenomenon:

On my world trip I am currently in India. Starting from Karachi to Ahmedabad to Mumbai to Goa all cities are covered in fog. VFR approaches are hard to fly.

First I thought about local weather phnenomena or air pollution.

Today I check the then Meteoblue and there is no fog anywhere near. The fog covers only the cities, a few miles out all is nice and clear. Smaller airports/cities inbetween/nearby are not affected.

Reason?

[SamuraiSax]

I’ve noticed this as well. It seems to be very selective, though. Smaller cities are perfectly clear, then a major city next to it will be fogged in. At first I attributed it to air pollution but temperature inversions in the middle of a desert plain? Doesn’t make sense to me.

[anon27120256]

These are “METAR Bubbles” that have been in the Sim since the SU7 update.

[beezzez]

Metar says it’s foggy. Unfortunately there is no way to switch metar off.

[SamuraiSax]

@MarkWithers2006

These are “METAR Bubbles” that have been in the Sim since the SU7 update.

I don’t think we’re talking about the patches of haziness that came with SU7, this is dense fog that limits visibility to about 1 mile over some cities. Also I’ve been in multiplayer events where others are using the same Live Weather settings but only I seem to see the fog bank. I began to suspect it’s something in my sim settings saving me from bad framerates. I tell you, I’ve getting very tired of landing in IFR conditions when the ATIS says it’s clear.

[sehnsedahamses]

@SamuraiSax

I began to suspect it’s something in my sim settings saving me from bad framerates.

But the opposite happens. FPS drops by 10% in the fog, it is very demanding for the GPU to render that.

[SamuraiSax]

Yeah. Hence the mystery.

[Portalearth420]

If it’s haze or other air pollutants (smog, pollens industrial burnoff etc) then i’d say it needs to be toned down a bit as i do believe those are represented in sim but i’m welcome to be corrected.

Then again, India is not known for it’s industrial climate change obligations so i wouldn’t be shocked if that’s actually pollution.

I’ve flown in some pretty hazy conditions but this is kind of on another level

[mbraortns]

I think it would look fine if it’s appearance could be adjusted and if a global haze were added. Those ‘fog discs’ or whatever do actually appear in real life but they blend into the horizon and surrounding viewable range. I think they are on the right track:

The darker area under the clouds is part of a ‘fog disc’ which is brighter towards the sun like it should be and the horizon clouds get obscured by it. Hopefully all that is intentional.
If they create a global haze that has a better – not sure how to say this – it needs a better more exponential decrease in visibility towards the horizon in my opinion because the visibility gets too little to close but it still needs to obscure the horizon. The bright band at the horizon is just lit up haze. In fact the entire sky is just lit up haze as I see it. When you climb up into the sky, there is now sky between you and the ground – blue sky… or sky filled with other stuff like smoke.

[sehnsedahamses]

@mbraortns

hose ‘fog discs’ or whatever do actually appear in real life but they blend into the horizon and surrounding viewable range.

Absolutely. But they does’nt appear only over big cities with major airports.

The mystic fog is extremly dense:

And end abrupt:

That is all looking and feeling great but it happens at the wrong time at wrong places.

[mbraortns]

While I agree they are too dense (and too uniformly dense), I dont agree about whether its right or wrong that they be flat on top.
Here’s Premier1Driver at about 42,000 feet approaching a large, tall area of reduced visibility. i’ve been inside one of those areas but never had I seen one from above until these shots (video title below pics):

and finally, a look back at it:

I think if Asobo can implement a global haze that realistically connects all the patches (as well as makes the patches better) then I think we’ll have a much better sim.

[PrayedChalk913]

They’ve actually done a pretty good job for India, because that’s what it’s like at certain times of the year. It’s a mixture of vehicle and industrial pollution, but it’s mainly burn off of rice stubble after harvesting. They harvest twice a year. The north west winds blow the smoke haze from north of New Dehli down the country. It’s great to get back home to Perth in WA where we have clear blue skies and fresh air being blown across thousands of kilometers of ocean up from Antarctica

[sehnsedahamses]

Thank you for your inputs.

Thats really what I have first in mind and if you read my post I have said it looks right and good but happens at wrong times and places. After proofing in meteoblu that there is no fog there at this times it looks more like as they randomly klicked on some bigger cities in this area and decide „let there be smog“

[SamuraiSax]

@sehnsedahamses

After proofing in meteoblu that there is no fog there at this times it looks more like as they randomly klicked on some bigger cities in this area and decide „let there be smog“

Exactly!

The problem I see is not the normal haze you see on the horizon, it’s a localized dome of smog over certain cities that obscures buildings and runways. I thought it was limited to India and the Middle East, but I found one over El Paso, Texas just the other day. The sky and the surrounding landscape were perfectly clear except for the smog dome directly over the city.