BING - at it's Best -- No too shabby!

:rofl: I personally would prefer that that over the ex-wife the car got in the divorce sitting in my driveway, Rabbit stew anyone :grimacing:

That’s not drone footage, it’s rendered. 3D trees are the most obvious giveaway.

They’re videos because it takes a lot of manual work to produce something like that from photogrammetry. The buildings are re-modelled as necessary, animated people added etc.

The Metaverse is coming and like it or not MSFS2020 will be a test bed for much of the technology.
Get used to it.

I didn’t have that option for Cambridge, but I did for London. It looks like its a pre-packaged view, no matter where you click in the centre of London. But the quality is amazing. A future sim version perhaps.

I’m assuming that. since I see moving water, reflections in buildings etc. that this is a bit of drone camera footage.

For London, if you look here you can see someone on a bike, about 5 seconds in.

Some buildings have a little box icon:

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This gives you a view of what we kind of have right now, using the PG assets available.

You can do this for the CN Tower in Toronto, which looks pretty good here:

Moving water, reflections and people on bikes or walking are all easily done in CG.

The people in particular look very unrealistic. They all have a distinctly purposeful stride.

I don’ think they are simulated, but I don’t know for sure. To me it looks like drone photography. You can’t adjust in an any way either, just pause, and rewind unlike the 3D object view.

Have a look at the Manchester, UK footage. You can clearly see a couple crossing the road, casting shadows on a chain link fence, birds flying by, some workmen wearing high vis jackets.

There is too much going on there for it to be simulated.

Don’t feel bad that you have fallen for it. It’s rendered :joy: :joy: :joy:
The London flyover will be more convincing.
IRL the water is not that clean :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:
As someone else said, look at the trees.

If so it’s the most impressive I have ever seen. :ok_hand:

In the Manchester one you can even make out a bloke at the bottom left closing a sliding side door on his van.

I’m jealous. I can’t see anything. That link just goes to a white page for me even if I try and move the ā€œinvisible mapā€ somewhere else. This is using Chrome on a Mac now. Does it only work in Edge?

It works on chrome, just move the map to the centre of a large city, try London

With better graphics comes the need for more computing power.
MSFS, a product for profit, has to accommodate a large variety of platforms from the few that have the most power to the average power folks to the minimum requirement customers. In the end, the MSFS is toned down to a happy medium that keeps the majority happy.
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Maybe one day they will change that philosophy and create a MSFS product that will morph itself for best performance and graphical presentation for the platform it is running on. Oh happy day !

The fact that you cannot tell (for sure) if it is real or simulated, is key here !!

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Firstly it’s a streamed game and MS are not in control of the whole internet, there are still limitations that are far beyond their control and influence … And secondly, why would any company want to spend the huge extra sums neede to cater for those relatively few that are grossly overspecced? I’m sure there are people willing to pay a ridiculous amount to get the best out of their $10k plus rigs but the price point for such a subscription would have to be so ridiculously high for it to make any sense whatsoever.

Yes, if so its really impressive. I was thinking back to that Unreal Engine 5 demo that came out a while back, the Matrix related one.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/WU0gvPcc3jQ

That looked impressive, this is even better than that. The difference here is that demo can be interacted with. Some folks have even created Hulk, and Superman simulators of sorts out of that.

All of that rendering take a lot of compute power, hence no ability to adjust the Bing scenes in any way, not even rotate the view. It’s all precomputed.

All that said, I remember not all that long ago when the first 3dfx cards came out, and Tomb Raider had an accelerated version that had no pixelated textures anywhere. That was a landmark moment for me. Imagine another 20 years development, and where we will be then.

Imagine back in the days of MSFS 1.0, looking at it’s wire frame images, and then seeing MSFS2020 back then. One could easily imagine similar thoughts s about it ā€œmust be Videoā€, no way can that be done by a computer in real time.

Now here we are in 2022, and look at MSFS 2020

Who is to say what we may be looking at in another 20-30 years, if humans survive on earth that long !!

MSFS 1.0 on a 6 Mhz 286 machine back then, MS2020 on a 5+ Ghz PC now . What will it be in 20–30 years.

On thing , many will have PBytes of cheap local storage to be able to avoid streaming ??

Exactly. The vast majority of presentations like this have been prerendered by supercomputers, no doubt taking hours/days to complete. Compare that to writing/reading a book

Even now, a lot of the cutscenes you see in games are pre-rendered. The game itself looks good, but not up to the pre-rendered stuff. They are no doubt using costly simulations of radiosity on top of plain old ray tracing. The first, and second generations of RTX cards do a good job on the raytracing stuff, and we already have a third gen range coming very soon.

Good times ahead. Here’s hoping by the time old age catches up to me we get the equivalent of the Red Dwarf Better than Life episode. :slight_smile:

Anyway, I thought it was ā€œCoolā€ video to post, but obviously we are NOT going to see anything like this in MSFS2020 for many many years…(If at all in a MSFS) but it is exciting to consider those possibilities for the future.

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I agree and probably much faster than you think … It’s Meridian’s philosiphy comment I was reacting to, IMO it’s not even close to reality.

I need to start reading books again …

https://www.amazon.com/Age-Adventure-Philosophy-Meridian-Philosophers/dp/0452008514

Anyway, back to ā€œCurrentā€ REALITY : -----> CTDs and slow downs to 5 FPS … :weary:

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