I use Simbrief for flight planning. In the recent past the MSFS flight planner loaded with SID and Stars as well as all relevant airways and way points. Since earlier this weekit can only load direct departures and arrivals. I tried to troubleshoot the issue with no success. I am at my wits end and if anyone could advise me on how this issue can be rectified it will be highly appreciated. Regards.
I usually only use SimBrief as a “guideline” on which SIDs and STARs to use. Then I use the default world map flight planning tool to set a Gate-to-Gate flight plan, with assigned approach, and change the SIDs and STARs that’s shown on the SimBrief. That way, the flight plan loaded are a complete one, and not coming from SimBrief.
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I unfortunately do not have the choice to enter sid and stars, onlly direct departure and arrival. This is very frustrating as I can no longer fly airlners correctly
That’s strange… Are you using navigraph? And is this happening to all airports? Or only to some? I know that for airports that don’t have SIDs and STARs, you only have the Direct available. But for airports who do, regardless of whether you load a flight plan or start from scratch, you should be able to choose the SIDs and STARs regardless.
I use Navigraph. As I indicated flight planning worked perfectly, A few days ago and then the problem started out of the blue. Like you said it is very strange. Thank you for trying to assist. I am considering re-installing MSFS.
I’ve only came across this issue for the payware WSSS singapore changi airport with navigraph. For some reason the content.xml file orders the addons in a certain way that it prefents WSSS to have their SIDs and STARs selectable from the menu. As advised by navigraph, I had to rearrange the ordering in the content.xml file so that the airport is directly above the navigraph content, then I can see the SIDs and STARs from the list.
But that only happen to that airport though, no other airport both default, freeware, or payware addons exhibit the same behaviour. So I’m wondering if your issue is similar to it. But does it only happen when you load a flight plan? Or does it also happen when you build a flight plan from scratch?
Is there a reason why you prefer to use the in game flight plan with sim brief? A32nx, cj4 mod and I think cry will let you link sim brief to the the plane and upload your flight plan automatically. You would only need to enter the departure and arrival.
Which planes do you fly? The in game flight planner can be avoided completely.
I find it convenient to use the default flight planner to load flight plans. However if a workaround is possible as you describe for the A320 nx I will gladly give it a go.However I watched a few videos on the subject without success. Could you please give me some pointers on how to do this? Thanks for your help so far. Regards, Johann.
Because the default flight planner is the only one that can create a full gate-to-gate flight plan with assigned SIDs, STARs, and Approach. Loading flight plan from Simbrief usually have a weird cruising altitude assignment once imported to the sim and you have to deal with clearance and re-clearance with the ATC, then you need to keep asking for an altitude increase until you get to where you want. And at the end of the flight because Simbrief can’t create a gate-to-gate flight plan, the Ground ATC will assign you some weird parking spot at the corner of the airport somewhere, away from the passenger terminal gates.
I still use SimBrief to let me know which SIDs and STARs to use based on the selected active runway. But I only use it for the guideline, and the integration with my third-party software like Volanta and Pacx. But what I use for the actual flight plan, are created from the default in-game flight planner that’s updated with navigraph.
Comparing the two, I don’t really see the difference, other than SimBrief is using the “actual” airways making it a more realistic flight plan. But using the default flight plan also allows me to make a full flight plan that the autopilot follows anyway, so even if it’s less realistic, the fact that I can still fly the whole flight to my destination gives me less incentive to use SimBrief as the actual flight plan. Especially since it can’t make a gate-to-gate flight plan.
By using the in-game flight planner, I can mitigate a lot of the ATC and navigation bugs. Like, you can assign your cruising altitude, and with a full gate-to-gate flight plan, you don’t need to touch it anymore once you load the flight, no changes to the flight plan, means no ATC Re-clearance, and no re-clearance means no wrong altitude assignment.
Then the approach, since it’s loaded from the flight plan, the plane will follow the STAR down to the approach vectors, without the need to change the approach, the aircraft won’t have the nav bug where the aircraft turns back to a previous waypoint because it resets the STAR and you have to fly it all over again.
And with all the flight plan loaded, the ATC will follow whatever it is on the flight plan. The SID you set, the ATC will direct you to the runway that you set in the SID. The ATC will also clear you for the pattern and approach and runway that you set in the STAR and Approach. And after touchdown, the ATC will direct you to a gate that you already set in the flight plan.
All this compared to what SimBrief can do makes me tip in favour towards the default flight planner than to SimBrief. It’s not their fault really, I’m just mitigating the issues with the sim itself by choosing a less-buggy approach than realism.
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That was some great info thanks
I’ve had the same problem this morning afer an overnight re-install. For me the problem has been solved by installing Navigraph’s Navdata. I seem to remember the same program pulling me out of the mire a few weeks ago. I’m not sure if you have to pay a Navgraph subscription to use Navdata but, if so, I think it’s worth it to resolve such a fundamental problem for serious flight simmers: a problem which it is outrageous to have occurred in the first place; I suspect due to dumbing down MSFS for X-Box users. Tlhanks once again, Microsoft.
Sorry, re-reading this, I’m not sure that it’s clear what I am referring to due to the thread having moved on a bit. I was referrring to the original problem about SID’s and STAR’s having disappeared. That is what Navigraph rectifies.
Hi, Welcome to the forum. I have Navigraph’s Navdata installed. Unfortunately it did not fix the issue for me. As you will see in the screen shot this is what I get without the option to chance the Direct Departure, Direct Arrival or the Approach. Valid Simbrief plan has been loaded. Up until Tuesday the Default Flight Planner worked correctly and then suddenly started acting up. I am hoping that CarolBaskin3561 will advise how to import the Simbrief plan directly into the FBW A320, when loaded.
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I’ve never had problem with simbrief on msfs tbh. I’m flying crj 700. I can agree that sometimes simbrief is assigning weird cruising (FL370 on short flight fully loaded barerly can climb there and once you reach you need to descend). Cruising I’m setting manually. To have gate-to-gate once I load flight plan from simbrief to in-game flight planer I only change departure gate and arrival gate. I always use real time weather and generate simbrief plan just before I start flight. And never had issue with wrong assignments from atc etc. If you are using navigraph you can update msfs database to current airac so any differences between them should be mitigated.
Maybe it’s the CRJ custom flight plan system that has mitigated all the issue. I don’t have the CRJ, so I wouldn’t know.
But you can’t really assign a gate when you load a flight plan from a file. Since it will be setup as an IFR flight plan, and you can’t select a gate. Selecting a gate icon from the world map will reset the flight plan and generate a new one, disregarding the one you load in the first place.
I’ve been using updated navdata since last year and I’ve been keeping it updated regularly. But the flight planning system between the default flight planner and simbrief are different. I can pick the same departure and arrival route, and the waypoints and airways that they use are different. Even with the same AIRAC cycle.
Like I said, I also generate a Simbrief plan before every flight as well. I just only use it for my third-party software like Pacx and Volanta. In terms of the actual flight plan for my flight. I still use the default flight planner, because it’s the least buggy option and has proven to have given me smooth flight 99% of the time.
Did you remove Navigraph from the community folder but not uninstall it through the app?
Doing so will cause the problem you are describing.
Even if you didn’t try removing and reinstalling Navigraph from the app.
Nope, I never install nor remove navigraph manually in the community folder. I always use the Navigraph navdata centre to install, update, and remove navdata (and also the in-game charts panel).
Hi There. My apologies, your advice was correct. I double checked on my Navigrap’s Navdata installation and found it mysteriously missing. After re-installing the Navdata the Flight plans now load correctly. Thank you.
Glad to be of help if it was my suggestion tha woirked. It doesnt happen often , even though I do try!