Bushwheels XCub landing gear way too fragile

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
XCub Bushwheels variant is far too sensitive to landing gear damage/crashes when landing off-airport, especially in career mode SAR missions - susceptible to tire/strut failures as a result of bumping over small autogen items/terrain variations. No other bush planes have this issue - Draco and Shock Ultra handle these types of terrain as they should whereas XCub handles like tires/struts are made of glass

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
XCub big wheels variant

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
None added, issue still present

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Intermittent depending on specific landing terrain

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Launch career mode SAR mission in XCub
  2. Locate target, complete low pass phase etc
  3. Land next to target on rough terrain - during rollout one or both tires/struts will fail resulting in an immediate forward flip/crash

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Not relevant

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX 3080Ti

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
i7-10700 32GB

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Same but then again I hardly can get this Xcub to land good on a normal strip.
70% of my landings with the Xcub it will tip on one of it’s wing sides and when corrected it just tips over on the other side wing and tip forward resulting in crash. Xcub is super sensitive on the roll out on any landing the slightest movement will make it crash even at very low speeds.
I love this plane but landing it is a complete nightmare.

EDIT: And also yes every single landing no matter how smooth it goes the ■■■■ landing gear/tyres need about 20k of repairs

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Yeah it handles on the ground like an angry bull with a ghost pepper up its ■■■ but that’s a different bug :laughing:

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Yea I bought this as my first plane and it was probably the worst choose i could make. I’m barely making any money also doesn’t help i got scammed out of like 1 million credits by the bugged insurance until they fixed it.
I’m level 103 now have all the available licenses but still only 1 company and my Xcub. and about 90K in the bank hard times for a Xcub pilot…

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Just replicated this again - off airport landing in SAR mission, good approach, clear LZ (made two passes to make sure), smooth touchdown and normal braking - tires failed, flipped over, crashed. Every time in the XCub without fail.

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Exactly the same for me, two landings, one in the bush, one butter on a tarmac railway - both damaged the wheels and tyre - deffo a bug as didn’t have this in MSFS2020

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Agreed. The XCub is way off.

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Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

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Legend. :saluting_face:

To add on some further information: it seems the XCub’s off-airport behavior is compounded by the fact that autogen rocks and vegetation seem to create a lot of phantom collision meshes that cause aircraft to flip over or simply crash into a brick wall of nothing; I lost a SAR mission in a Draco the other day to a phantom obstacle like that — however my original report still stands, this is merely additional info

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes.

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• Another way to produce this issue is taxing at medium-low spead and breaking heavily. When the tail lifts off the ground slightly and bounces back, it takes around two to three of these bounces on ‘new’ grade tail wheel and strut to break them to completely broken status.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: The xcub gear always breaks sometimes leading to a crash when landing in the bush areas to rescue the lost person in career mode. No matter how slow and smooth i land and even if its the smoothest spot.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: The Xcub

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

Yip

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

All rescue missions end up with wrecked landing gear.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Try and land no matter how soft it breaks.

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Try land near the lost person.

YOUR SETTINGS

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
•yip not matter how smooth the landing is

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• the gear has the strength of a toothpick and the tyres are as if they are as fragile as balloons in rescue missions.

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Lol it also gets me everytime on rescue missions. Perfect 3 pointer with barely any bumps then the gear snaps and tyres pop, if the terrain is a bit sloped or bumpy the plane always falls over onto the wing and countering it with ailerons or what ever else i could think of to prevent this while landing does nothing. I have been Lucky a few times to get back into the air with the damage to finish the mission.

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This plane needs an ongoing megathread for all the issues.

  • Some of the cockpit quickview cameras look in the wrong direction. Quickview 45, Left looks right and vice versa.
  • Master avionics toggle behaves oddly when bound to a button/key. The switch doesn’t toggle with button mappings, but pressing it affects something within the avionics, although it doesn’t toggle it on or off. I’m not even sure how to describe this issue.
  • Using the mouse wheel to turn on the ignition key is the opposition direction of what you would expect.
  • Fuel selector doesn’t have button mappings.
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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: The damage threshold for the landing gear/tires on the X Cub (both tundra and normal tires) is currently way too low, since the “system damage” message will consistently trigger with a descent rate of maybe 250fpm, which is entirely too low, and this behavior isn’t shared by the NXCub, or any other airplane I’ve tried in MSFS.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
X Cub, both tundra and normal tire versions

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes, issue persists

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1.Load flight with X Cub
2.Land with a descent rate more than about 250fpm at touchdown, notice damage message appears
3.Repeat 1-2 with other aircraft, notice that damage does not occur.

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
Nno

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
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[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Rtx 4080

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The XCub’s landing gear is designed for rough-field and backcountry operations, so it can handle somewhat hard landings. However, a 250 ft/min descent rate is on the higher side for a normal landing. Here’s what that means for the undercarriage:

1. What is a Safe Landing Rate?

  • Soft landing: 100 ft/min or less
  • Normal landing: 150-200 ft/min
  • Firm landing: 200-300 ft/min
  • Hard landing (risk of damage): 300+ ft/min

At 250 ft/min, you’re in the firm but not extreme range. This is not immediately catastrophic, but repeated landings at this rate can stress the landing gear over time.

2. Potential Damage Risks

  • Shock Absorber Overload: The XCub has rugged gear with shock absorption, but a high descent rate compresses it quickly, potentially leading to premature wear.
  • Gear Mount Stress: The fuselage mounting points take significant force. If the load is repeatedly high, it can lead to cracks or deformation in the structure.
  • Wheel & Tire Damage: 20+ psi on the contact patch isn’t extreme, but if the terrain is rough, a harder impact could risk rim or tire damage.
  • Bouncing & Loss of Control: If the landing gear doesn’t absorb enough energy, the aircraft could bounce, increasing the risk of a bad rollout.

3. Real-World Impact

  • A one-time 250 ft/min landing won’t necessarily break anything, but if you consistently land this hard, inspect the gear regularly.
  • Bush planes like the XCub are built tough, but for long-term durability, aim for below 200 ft/min when possible.
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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes. Same here. Even a gentle taxi to runway can cause damage.

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Thanks ChatGPT

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Looks like this was fixed - landing gear is now incredibly tough - with disable crash damage settings turned off, I can’t damage the Xcub no matter what I do.