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Brief description of the issue:. When flying the Cessna 172 and Bonanza G36 it appears that the Pilot and Cabin heat switches and pull knobs have no affect. This is not a problem unless you are flying where icing can occur. I think the propeller was having issues too which cause low airspeed even with full throttle. Once I lowered elevation the issues were resolved.
Are these switches actually supposed to function?
Provide Screenshot(s)/video(s) of the issue encountered:. Windows icing
Detail steps to reproduce the issue encountered:. Fly at 12,000 feet in northern Utah in freezing conditions.
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There is a Pitot tube on most planes that determines the air speed.
These are on the outside of the plane and are heated to stop them being blocked up with Ice. That switch is labeled Pitot Heat in the plane.
Cabin heat switches are not functional and they wouldn’t clear the screen from icing up anyway even if they were functional.
The Cessna 172 is not rated to be flown in icing conditions as it hasn’t got any screen or wing deicing capability. In the real plane you just wouldn’t fly in conditions that might cause icing, unless you want to commit suicide.
I’m not sure about the Bonanza’s capability in icing conditions as I haven’t tried it yet.
No. I was talking about heating the cabin. I will go back and make sure I read the switch identification as instruments are a bit blurry in VR. I also pulled the heater knobs too with no affect.
Well the problem occurred flying the Bonanza which has cabin heat knobs to pull and prop de-icing switch. By the way I see Cessnas flying over my place all the time when it’s only 25 degrees outside at ground level (about 4500 ft).
Cold air is actually drier, it’s the moisture that causes icing in cold air. At 30,000ft temps range below -25f and can hit -70 or there about.
Pretty sure the Bonanza is not rated to fly in icing conditions either, even though it has some anti ice device(s) meant for emergency use until you can get out of icing…or crash.
The cabin heat in the Bonanza is just there to keep you and your passengers from becoming popsicles, the prop de-icing is strictly for emergency use only.
The Cessna 172 has a carb heat to prevent carb icing only. Carb icing is not limited to cold weather, it regularly occurs with high power on a hot humid day .
Well in this case I was flying the Bonanza at 12,500 feet from Grand Canyon, AZ to Springville , UT with Live Weather. There was no problem until I reached about 90 miles south of Springville then ice formed on glass making it impossible to se out. I tried turning on cabin heat (as I really wasn’t cold in my room) to see if that would help but didn’t have any affect. Once over some high mountains I was able to lower altitude to 7,500 feet (only about 3,000 feet above ground) and flew the valleys to my destination. That eventually de-iced enough to land. Of course I could still fly from exterior view but was having difficulty maintaining air speed until I lowered altitude.
The bottom line is that if cabin heater worked, it should help prevent ice from forming on widows. Not sure if the Microsoft people have any interest in this. In the meantime I guess I cannot fly live weather in Utah during winter.
Firstly, I think you over estimate the effectiveness of the cabin heater. Secondly, that still won’t prevent the far more serious issue of wing icing. But yes, with the G36 and live weather you’re going to be spending on lot of time on the ground in Northern latitudes during winter, just like the real thing.
You are correct although I see a lot of Cessnas and other single engine aircraft flying over head during such cold weather. I’m not really bugged about this I was just curious if the heater controls actually worked. There is a cabin temperature indicator on the panel and even when it’s only 41 degrees I tried to activate heaters with no affect. Most likely they are non-functional like some of the other switches. They just didn’t label them as such. P
For sure. I just was wondering if the heater knobs were non-functioning which based on the response I got back from Microsoft they are non- functioning. So don’t go flying in Utah with live weather during the winter. I know you can chose any condition but freezing condition is out.
They are non functional, but even if they were working you wouldn’t use them to clear the screen. And as mentioned above it’s not just a case of not being able to see out of the screen, the effect on the aero of the plane from ice forming on the wings etc.. would just make the plane fall out of the sky.
You will just have to choose an aircraft that is rated for flying in icing conditions if you want to fly with live weather in your area.
The Pitot heat switch as well as the cabin heat does not work on the Cessna and the Beachcraft G36. They should just say inoperative like some of the other switches.
Which Cessna? My Pitot Heat switches work flawlessly. Do you happen to have an input device like the Bravo TQ which has switches? If the Pitot off is selected on a permanent input device switch you cannot move it in sim.
The lever moves but nothing I noticed happens. I had the same question a while back and the responses were the Cessna was not rated for freezing weather. I was also trying to activate canine heat to see if the freezing over of the windows.