Career missions constantly tell you to take off in the wrong direction

GaugeForever · November 22, 2024, 8:53pm

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Missions in the game constantly have you taking off with the wind instead of against it.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
All of them

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
About 60% or more of the time, I didn’t count to be honest, but it feels like more than half the time.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

Play career missions
Note that a good chunk of them have you taking off with the wind, which is incorrect.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
N/A playing MS2024

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
AMD 6800XT Reference

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
AMD 3900X
32GB DDR 4

MEDIA

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WrithemTwine · November 23, 2024, 7:29pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Not just taking off, but landing.

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• The landing is also contrary to EFB flight plan and wind. The screenshot wind is about 030 as a slight crosswind, but mission required runway 25 w/wind resulting in an objective failure.

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TheFoxShoki · November 23, 2024, 8:22pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes, I do.

After getting my IFR rating, I have 9/10 times been greeted with 5-30 Kt tailwind landing and taking off, modifying the flightplan is not helping before starting the mission. Winds given by airports do not match what the mission gives you. This is super frustating.

SwippyOG · November 23, 2024, 8:48pm

The flight plan in career mode and the Flight Path Visual Assist show to different routes. This this when doing the skydiving missions. And both flight paths make no sense. The assisted flight path is giving me a flightpath into the mountains. And the flight path on the tablet is also incorrect. There is no way you can climb to fl 11000 with that path.
And when I complete the mission it will always say that I was too slow.

Wooli3s · November 27, 2024, 11:49am

Yes, I can confirm. Take a cargo mission in the C172 and it gives you take off and landing runways completely wrong for the weather and the wind behind you.

KillyMF · November 27, 2024, 6:50pm

I am unable to get my PPL as it always has me taking off in the wrong direction.

Royky9 · November 28, 2024, 6:36pm

Yes having the same issue can’t complete cert as taking off in wrong direction and getting message to land. with taking off this was takes you on wrong flight path. Also no engine and cockpit sounds issue.

Keev101 · November 30, 2024, 7:47pm

Same issue, its a big problem. Makes it much harder to land in some cases. Also what a terrible simulation of actual aviation procedures.

wcc96387 · November 30, 2024, 10:10pm

Same issue here. For smaller tighter airports I’ll choose to land into the wind (the correct way) and just take the hit for landing on the “wrong” runway. Larger runways I’ll just land downwind and eat up runway.

I agree though between the constant overhead pattern entries at what seems like every airport (unrealistic. I have 1800 hours instructing in 172’s to back that claim up) the constant wanting to have me land downwind, and undeserved airman ship violations I can say this isn’t a great representation of flying.

They could have simply asked… There are no shortage of pilots out there that would’ve been happy to help set straight the basic procedures before launch.

wcc96387 · December 1, 2024, 4:36pm

I have found a bit of a work around for the wrong runway bug. If you use the ATC panel form the toolbar it provides more options and you can select what runway you want to use and it seems to override the mission steps.

If you just hit enter for the mission steps it will dictate what runway it wants you to use but the ATC panel from the toolbar seem to be able to override it. I have selected a different runway twice now while on approach and haven’t gotten the “landed on wrong runway” notification.

GaugeForever · December 1, 2024, 4:39pm

I haven’t responded to this thread in a bit, but I have discovered you can take off in whatever direction you want once you get take off clearance and it won’t ding you. At least it has not for me yet.

WrithemTwine · December 2, 2024, 1:53am

Also reported under a separate issue:

WrithemTwine · December 2, 2024, 1:59am

There was a bug in 2020 where windsocks reflected the opposite wind direction to the true on the ground condition (sock hanging 180º to wind blowing- like physically impossible, lol).

I suspect there’s a similar “wind reported” vs actual “wind direction” bug that is reversing the wind-based logic.

SeedyL3205 · December 5, 2024, 12:53am

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged

WrithemTwine · December 5, 2024, 6:11pm

I found in career mode the “ATC enforce flight plan” assistance option is permanent-enabled; so that speaks to sticking to a plan instead of adjusting to current conditions (i.e. an hour flight, plenty of time for wind to change from starting plan).

I have noticed if I update the EFB/FMS plan, it gets adjusted in the mission objectives.
I’ve also noticed ATC gave a different approach than EFB/mission guide, and I chose to load/use that procedure, like from runway 23 to 5 - but it was downwind lol - that was a fun landing.