Following those stupid boxes to avoid being penalized in your score is absolutely absurd and kills the immersiveness with those stupid blue boxes in the sky. You should be able to plan your flight as you wish (direct, VOR, IFR, fuel load, etc). This should be an essential feature that can be turned on/off with a simple button.
You are correct; the MSFS highway doesn’t have to be followed, but you lose points if you don’t follow it, especially when entering the pattern for landing. If it’s VFR and they don’t want to put any traffic in the pattern, then we shouldn’t lose points for doing a straight-in approach.
Not to mention, the sim seems to eschew right-hand traffic patterns, which are not very uncommon in the US. When working in the world hub, I noticed every runway is set to left-hand traffic by default. I’ve fixed that at a handful of airports, but I need to go to one and test whether career mode pathing actually recognizes it or if the coding is deeper. Will report back.
you dont actually need to fly through the blue boxes at all, i never do i always just use my own navigation and i always cancel ifr so i can i just fly to final however i would like.
I agree with the sentiment of this post overall, but as far as I know you can edit your filghtplan in the Accept Mission step using your EFB. Just edit the flightplan, file with ATC and you’re good. If the airport you want to land at is not controlled, then you just have to choose a different runway for landing and announce your intentions before landing. Then the mission objectives will just adapt.
I just had a mission where I configured my flight plan through the EFB, said everything up in my avionics however ATC kept trying to force me to go a different path than the route that I chose. If I didn’t take that path it would ding me.
You can remove the blue boxes. You have to create a key bind to toggle them. It’s something like “toggle visual assistance” or something like that. If you look at the visual assistance settings in the assistance tab, it tells you the name of the binding. I just bound it to the V key. I think there was a default binding, but I didn’t like it.
I somehow managed to find a bug where it unlocks the “Load Flight Plan”, and the two buttons on the bottom. However, I couldn’t replicate it just once.
(I pressed “Tab” in free flight planner, press the load button, then pop it in new window, go into the career select a mission after it loaded, select the plan that made for the mission, finally press the “File plan with ATC” and that should be it)
I made the plan with the web flight planner.
I’m tired of using bugs to play the game the correct way…
You can edit it, as long as you are on PC. Can’t use the search feature in the EFB if you are on console. The On Screen Keyboard won’t let you select from the drop down box. The EFB is just a visual aid for Xbox. Can’t change the route at all. Hopefully this gets fixed in the next couple of months.
I’d prefer a list of jobs available… take freight 82lbs (you need to choose appropriate aircraft) from CNC3 to CYYZ for instance.
Then I need to properly plan with charts (or not if VFR) my route and input it into g1000 for instance… it can show on my EFB after I’ve chosen my route.
I can plan with proper charts in navigraph and then input myself.
If the predetermined flightplan wasnt so buggy and if the efb synced with the avionics properly it wouldn’t be such a big issue but I’d still love to have a setting in career options to just completely disable the predetermined flightplans.
I think that for point-to-point missions (e.g. cargo and passenger), it would be best to just give a departure and destination airport and that’s it. Leave it to us how we get there. I find there are too many finicky restrictions the missions want to force on us. Especially on approach which is both overly complicated (mission steps) and often glitched as well.
Agreed. Honestly, it’s just repetitive pushing the “Enter Key” button as it is.
I’ve gotten it where I turn off the character ATC voices, use my program and routing, and fly to the destination. It’s a ding on reputation, but that doesn’t seem to give anything but bonuses on cash. It would be nice if it worked correctly or looked for takeoff and destination–pick up the landing lights, airspeeds, aircraft damage, etc., and build a reputation on everything except radio calls.
I am enjoying 2024 immensely and think it is a great accomplishment. I am excited about where it will be and where it is going. Career mode has much potential for those looking for an incentivized system–but it needs some tweaks.
After some weeks of testing I do not use the original flight plans of the missions anymore, I create my own plans before starting the mission. The only exceptions are scenic trips, aerial ads and parachuting, but I normally don’t do that kind of missions. Those missions follow a specific path and altitude so there’s no use in changing it.
It’s just open the EFB, create a route and send it to ATC before starting the mission. Once you’re inside the aircraft and with avionics on, open the EFB and send the plan to avionics. And that’s all, you’ll fly your own flight plan. Some aircraft do not support injecting the plan from EFB (at the moment of writing this), so in this case you can create the flight plan before take off. But sending the plan to ATC before starting the mission is the important part of this.
The problem here is that you cannot control the amount of fuel exactly, and if there’s a great deviation from the original plan you may experience problems. So I have mapped a key to add 25% of fuel in flight. It’s unrealistic, but unless we are able to control the fuel it’s the only solution for me.
This is very interesting. I don’t use career mode precisely for this reason. The initial missions constantly send me over restricted airspaces, even just a few miles from the threshold runway of an international airport. So, if it’s possible to create your own flight plan, that would be a game changer for me.
One question: do you receive any penalties for the fuel modification? Could it be possible modify the fuel quantity before takeoff using this shortcut?
Hello, “Gamer who usually plays COD” here.(Not really, but brand new to aviation and sims essentially; learned everything I know studying for Part 107 and studying after FS24 launched).
I still agree with everything said here. Don’t get me wrong, the first few missions and automatically generated plans, boxes and guides and general gamey dings for no ATC response or wrong runway notices were great to introduce me to flying a plane with some semblance of how a flight goes.
But after a dozen or so hours play, especially with all of the bugs, I felt the urge to learn how to do everything the right way. Now a few weeks into the launch, apart from a cold and dark startup of a 737 Max I am getting in freeflight, creating full flight plans and using all of the systems available to fully program out flights and trying to follow all of the guidelines. Weights and speeds, comms and ILS frequencies, altitudes and all procedures and preparing for missed approach paths etc. More deeply learning how to read the nav charts and airport documents(Part 107 helped me here, but not nearly as much as needed for actual aircraft operation).
Learning the nitty gritty behind what makes a safe and successful flight has been very enjoyable is what I’m getting at. Learning all of the operations and controls of specific planes is fun and engaging. However, the thing that got me interested was the introduction of career which introduces a reason or motivating factor to play at all. Time invested equals money and reputation earned equals some kind of ego boost being able to afford Jets on an arbitrary limitation/struggle placed compared to “pointlessly” flying around in freeflight or trying to get that same experience in a third party, tab-out career mod.
If it weren’t for the career mode, I would have never had any interest in this game the same way I dropped FS20 after 5 hours. After spending all of this time, and continuing to spend time learning more and more about aviation I’m having a great time and it would be even greater if the career would stop trying to hold my hand and let me have control over my flights in a more meaningful and engaging way that allows me to explore the realism of flying a plane and managing a company.
have any of you actually ‘tried’ changing the flight plan?
you can change the flight plan in the tablet, before the mission at the load screen or literally Anytime inflight
if you dont like the runway they assign you to land Change it in the tablet and use File with ATC - the mission ribbons and all will change and represent the new flight plan - hit Send to Avionics and the GPS will show the new plan and follow it
i also Consistently change altitudes, either before the mission in the tablet or after i start, you can simply request this using the atc window like irl, unless they deny the request (this happens, they once denied me as i was about to run into a mountain) the mission text will indicate the altitude change and atc will direct you to descend/climb to the new altitude
finally, if atc does something dumb, most times, especially if its clearish weather, you can simply cancel IFR or Flight Following and finish the mission without it or any penalty
at first i thought it might be whats causing the mission failures for me- but i just failed 3 of 5 missions without any plans changes (a bit higher than i had when i was changing the flight plans)