Carenado C182Q no vertical guidance on LPV approaches

No matter what I do, I can’t get the 182Q to fly an LPV approach. I would expect yellow arrows to come down on the HSI as the plane approaches/intercepts the FAF on any LPV approach, but I never see them. This is with the TDI GTN750Xi. Has anyone else seen this? ILS works fine.

R U sure that the Carena 182 can fly LPV approaches? At least in FSX/P3D it couldn’t.

I’m using TDS GTN750Xi. Of course it should! My guess is F3X/P3D did not have a WAAS enabled unit.

Which airport, and approach were you trying? Also, can you fly the LPV if you swap in the 530?

KABE RNAV24. I tried another one somewhere else (KCCO I think, still no dice).

I have not tried with the 530 but that is a good test.

Unless the 530 has a W suffix it is not WAAS capable.
The TDS GTN 750 or 650Xi should be able to fly it. As should the Avidyne IFD series. The HSI has to have a glideslope indicator.

IRL older legacy autopilots found in 182Qs (like Cessna Navomatic units) typically cannot capture or track vertical GPS glidepaths.

I think perhaps your 182Q is bugged.

I looked at the Carenado page, it says 530 not 530W yet it enunciates LPV anyway on its 530 (another bug if it is non-WAAS, that should never happen). Still no GP.

The HSI has glideslope indicators (works on an ILS). Autopilot support is completely orthogonal - I’m hand flying here.

I think too, what are the changes they will actually fix it? I did file a ticket.

I’m not at home to try, but you could also try this:

https://hangaraddons.com/addons/msfs-2024/panels/ccms-garmin-gns530430-crazy-completionist-mod-d38e621d

With Carenado it is a lottery - you never know.

Thanks! No interest in 530 support. Really want GTN or bust.

True, but it was worthwhile trying an alternate GPS. Have you tried the 750 in another plane? Since you mentioned TDS, are you using Asobo navdata or Navigraph data, and if the latter is it installed, and up to date? Cycle 2611 now.

Yes, works fine. It’s definitely a Carenado issue now (which means it most likely will never be fixed because in my experience they have zero support for their products).

TDS+Navigraph. It’s all up to date (I forgot the cycle but Nov 26 is the expiration).

I did too and I didn’t see anything about LPV on the product page?

The TDS GTN series is WAAS capable. That’s all you should need to fly LPV. Flying LPV is based on your avionics (and of course the plane fully supporting TDS which it claims it does).

The Working Title unit is WAAS capable.

I have done LPV approaches in the BBS Islander, but not this plane, so I know the 530 can do them.

You are talking about the capabilities of the real one, not the one for a flying game like MSFS.

No, TDS (the plugin/infrastructure) is WAAS capable. If you are saying Carenado’s 182Q can’t do it yet fully supports TDS, then that’s a bug else they need to document this limitation.

I also don’t know any 530 in 2024 that doesn’t support WAAS (or goes out its way to explicitly prevent it). Can you give me an example?

Further, it actually enunciates LPV for the stock 530 that ships with it when you activate the approach (no plugin needed). This just seems completely broken.

Carenado 206 + TDS 750. I’m flying the KABE LPV into runway 24 right now.

Assuming you, and I are using the same version of the TDS 750, and you know how to load, and activate the approach, then the difference would appear to be the plane itself.

I took off, manually flew around, activated the FONUP leg, and used the AP again, and it worked again just like the first time.

Can you share your GTN settings? Before claiming it is plane specific, maybe I have some setting misconfigured.

Note: I do use the GTN in standalone mode (I can’t imagine that would change anything).