Carenado PC-12

After the update, General Avionics are not working , EADI HSI are Turned Off, Avidyne and transponder turn on but wont work. GPS not turning on either

After the update and restarting the sim, I am stuck on the checking for updates.

Why does it not tell you what add-on or file is the issue, I am getting sick and tired of nursing this SIM. It has got worse lately.

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Not blaming Got Friends, but after the PC12 update the only way to start the SIM for me is to remove the optica.

Everythink works fine after update and also with got friend optica installed.

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Same here no avionics at all for me blank efis, GTN is turned on but all other screens not working.

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For anyone with blank screens the PMS GTN is causing the issue just delete it from community folder

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PMS50 GTN is fine with PC12. What you need to do is delete the extra WTT PC12 package they had, as it’s no longer required. GTN750 Project - #2206 by ScorpionFilm422

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Is there still a patch required for the GTN to work with the WT avionics?

I believe there are still planes that need the Marketplace WT 530? Is there a list of them somewhere? Are there still planes out there that the Marketplace WT 530 breaks, like the SWS RV10? SWS didn’t answer my question about it here, but perhaps they have discussed it elsewhere, what their plans are, since Microsoft has no plans to fix the G3X so it works with the WT Avionics as far as I know. Kind of crazy they would intentionally leave bring Ken avionics n the sim.

You still need WT GNS530 Compatibility

PMS said they are not continuing development of GitHub - pimarc/pms50-gns530: Flight simulator 2020 GNS530 Mod so nix that.

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Thank You for the response, that fixed the issue !

Well, as a side effect you just solved my TBM problem. After deleting PMS folders from Community, the screens finally came back. I have no Working or WTT folder though.

What’s your TBM problem? (though this is the PC-12 thread, best not to hijack it, point to a TBM thread)

I’m using the PMS50 with TBM (popup mode) and PC-12 (tablet, integrated) just fine.

The issue is not the PMS50 plugin itself, it’s the addon aircraft modules they have @ Aircraft

In some cases they are no longer required as PMS50 now has native implementation.

Not sure about the TBM, unless you were using a mod?

Not using any mod for the TBM. I have never flown that plane until recently, and then gave up because of the screens being black no matter what.
In general I stay away from aircraft mods because I like to keep it simple. I don’t think I even use the PMS stuff actually. In most steam gauge aircraft I use the most simple GPS, and in the non steam gauge, I just use the default. The exception being the G3000 mod for the Longitude.

So I have a couple of flights in the TBM. Nice little plane, but doesn’t give me the same thrill as the Analog King Air.

The G3000 is the default FMS in the Longtitude, it doesn’t need a G3000 mod (not anymore anyway, as it’s officially replaced in the core sim). The TBM also has the same G3000 as the Longtitude. Maybe it was just the panel backlighting, dunno.

The Black Square Analog King air is a complex aircraft mod, but I wouldn’t know about the thrill as I don’t have it. Too many dials and switches for my simple brain. I like to keep it simple😜

I like the Velocity-XL from Black Square though, even if it’s using the G3X. Nice cockpit ergo.
You can also flip the breaker on the avionics and use the 3 backup dials for some emergency training, if feeling the analog need.

Indeed, the G3000 in combination with the PMS is probably the culprit. I will remove the G3000 mod and see if that makes a difference.
The Analog King Air is really one of the best planes in the sim. I have a simple checklist for it, that I use via SimVoiceAssistant, so no reading required, and in the end, it’s really not that complicated. As I fly in VR, I prefer the gauges.

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I have written several posts defending the merits of Carenado and PC12.
But, after the last response received from Carenado to a question of mine regarding the lack of a Turn Coordinator on their PC12, I have to admit that they lack the slightest tact when dealing with their clients.
For now, I also join those who will not buy products from these people again.

There are two PMS50 modules, one of which has a patch that’s required to work properly in some situations. Please be clear about which you are using.

There is the PMS50 430/530, which breaks things if the Marketplace WT530 mod is installed, and is no longer being supported. Many, many people have this installed, many of whom may not remember they have it installed, and may not know that it can break things. It still works, but only if the Marketplace WT530 is not installed. And it works like the old AS530 gauge. So it may break things, too depending on the sophistication of the 3rd party plane developer.

There is the PMS50 GTN750, which I imagine is what you were discussing, which needs a patch to work properly when the Marketplace WT addons are installed. So there in fact would be two packages installed for this to work properly, the GTN 750 and the patch. Maybe the patch is a file added to the package, I forget.

Anyway, don’t forget, when asking if the “PMS50 package” is installed if you’re helping people debug a problem, to be clear about all of the above, which package you mean.

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Please remember that English is not their primary language, that they get tons of help requests, and their help system relies heavily on canned responses and they apologize for that eventually if you catch their attention.

My question was very easy to answer.
When making a perfect holding pattern it is important to have an exact reference of a turn coordinator.
All aircraft have an instrument for this purpose.
In the PC12 there is a small rectangle at the bottom of the EADI, but in this model, for whatever reason, it does not work.
Of course we all know that the angle of turn can be calculated
using the ADI Roll Scale, but that requires a calculation taking into account the speed at each moment.
For this reason, all aircraft have some kind of turn coordinator, to avoid the need to perform mathematical calculations when establishing a procedural turn.

This, so easy to recognize, that for whatever reason their airplane model lacks that instrument…they are not capable of admitting it, even if it is so simple.

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Put it more… they are not capable of responding to every help request in a tactful way that makes their customers feel like they mean more than a very, very small transaction in a multi-million dollar business.

Someday, they’ll start using ChatGPT to create responses that soothe people more than the current canned responses.

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