I too, will add that with 737 you go into a nose dive after skipping cruise. AC flies at 30kts and it goes into a free fall. Need to immediately disengage AP, recover then turn it back on after I lose about 10,000ft in altitude (or 10000ft in Asobo talk).
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⢠I have the same problem, but only with missions that have a long duration
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⢠When the descent is omitted, the aircraft reappears on the ground between the trees and crashes again and again, not allowing it to continue. It negatively affects reputation, and a lot of time previously invested is wasted.
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⢠tengo el mismo problema, pero sólo con las misiones que tienen una larga duración
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⢠cuando se omite al descenso, la aeronave reaparece en el suelo entre los årboles y se estrella una y otra vez, sin permitir continuar. Afecta negativamente a la reputación, ademås se pierde mucho tiempo previamente invertido.
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⢠same issue happened to me, spawned into a dive, over speed and then âcrashâ mid air.
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ISSUE DESCRIPTION
Description of the issue:
In freelance career mode the 737 max goes into an extreme dive when skip to descent is engaged.
Before skiping to descen, VNAV, LNAV, Auto Throttle, and Auto pilot master are on. Once skip is selected, all auto pilots are off, flaps are at 2â° and from level flight takes a sharp left trun and goes into an uncontrollable high speed dive.
Sometimes it can be recovered with great difficulty, but 99% of the time you have to abort the mission or risk a whooping 56mil repair bill.
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Asobo Boeing 737 Max
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Every time
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REPRODUCTION STEPS
Skip to descent in career mode
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1.teke off , engage VNAV, LNAV and auto pilot during ascend
2.wait for skip to descent prompt
3.engage skip to descent
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velocity one flight yoke and quadrant. Mouse and keyboard
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⢠Yes, The 737 goes into a severe dive which is 99% of the time impossible to recover. The mission has to be restarted or aborted to avoid reputation penelties and if crashed, multi million repair bill.
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⢠If crashed, the insurance payout is not credited to the account and it is deducted instead.
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⢠Yes. It doesnât happen everytime but âskip to descentâ sometimes puts you on final at cruise speed which is no bueno in a CJ4.
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⢠Happens with multiple aircraft. Cessna CJ4 overspeed catastrophic failure after skip to descent. No chance to react. Aircraft destroyed.
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⢠Very frustrating. Yes, the same issue happens over and over with different aircraft and different missions. I have no idea why you chose to release this without ever having had anyone test it first.
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Same although I can survive the event if I set sim rate to minimum before ALT-N.
What I saw may help someone solve this. Seems to be that there are three issues here - one is the point on plan that ALT-N skips to; the second is that coming out of skip to descent the configuration is making incorrect assumptions about the approach and aircraft; the third is that the descent profiles are way too steep.
Before ALT-N was at cruise FL360; Mach .72, on autopilot and at vnav, lnav, etc. all good.
Immediately post-skip:
Airspeed 100KT
Altitude FL360
Flaps 15
Speedbrake armed
Engines idle
AT, AP still on
attempted to increase thrust - nothing until I turned off AT
manually disengaged AP and began stall recovery (max thrust, nose down, etc.)
Put sim rate back to normal
managed to recover at about FL280 (also retracted flaps as airspeed increased)
Was told by ATC to climb back to FL360
went back to FL360 - VNAV, LNAV no longer functional
A few minutes later (before landing) my VR froze; tried leaving VR but the atc window covered the entire screen and could not be closed (I saw someone else reported that issue as well)
had a similar case yesterday, cannot remember the mission, where skipping brought me right into a restricted airspace, resulting in an aviator violation
More data points - medium cargo mission in caravan - skip to descent ends up with flaps down and over speed (ding) and landing lights off below 10,000 (ding).
Just flew Cessna 208B on a medium cargo mission and the âskip descentâ spawned me directly onto the destination runway and mission ended immediately. Since this random bad spawn behavior happens pretty much every time, Iâll post a video next time.
Please, devs, take a look a this, because according to many others and myself included, it is pretty much a 100% reproducible issue (you never skip into a good location). Itâs especially frustrating as some missions and specializations require good ratings for flights and landings. Shouldnât be that difficult of an issue..
This has happened to me too but only last week. Numerous times Iâve âfailed a missionâ in this way. It happens so frequently that Iâve stopped using career mode altogether.
I have the same thing, mostly in Europe around the Alps. Happens nearly every time, skip to decent, wind up on the side of a mountain and my customers are not happy.
My 737 Max in career mode always spawns with too low speed of about 100 knots (after skipping alt+n after reaching cruise altitude). Of course, it ends with an immediate stall. Cessna Caravan in Medium Cargo missions does not have this problem. It spawns correctly in 99% of cases.
Does anyone have a solution for the faulty skipping of 737 Max to descend or last option is waiting for SIM update 2?
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⢠every time with the PC-24 on medium cargo. dosent happen with grand caravan or 172. unable to complete missions as it spawns you on the groundfar from airport or IN the ground on base leg.
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I seem to often hit the same issue. After what is apparently the âSU2â update, usually âskip to descentâ puts me directly on the ground somewhere outside the airport, resulting in a âyou are not allowed to land hereâ leading straight to âmission failed.â
Whenever I get such a mission, it will inevitably fail/abort, so I canât consistently find/retry missions where this bug happens. But for a given mission where itâs happening, I can restart and âskip to descentâ will cause the same problem consistently every single time. Currently Iâm sitting here in a âMXTC â F83 (Anernathy)â transport mission in a PC-24 getting hit by this every time.
This really does completely break the use of any freelance work in your own planes in career mode. You need insurance, not to protect against pilot error, but to protect against game errorsâŚ
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