Description of the issue:
Cessna 172 Cruising Altitude Wrong during Career Mode (11000 Feet is incorrect for a short flight 172. It should be 4500-9500 FT (No supplemental 02)
If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)
Always
REPRODUCTION STEPS
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Fly 172 in a ferry flight
No matter what selected in EFB for Cruise Alt - It defaults to 11000
Die of Hypoxia (Very slowly)
YOUR SETTINGS
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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Not Relevant
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No
[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
MSFS2024
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX4090
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
[Hardware]
Platform=“PC”
Cpu=“GenuineIntel”
Brand=“Intel(R) Core™ i9-14900K”
DriverVersion=“56614”
GPUName=“NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090”
HWS_Enabled=1
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in the 172 for me the cruise altitude always shows 10000 ft, for every mission type. Even sightseeing.
On skydiving missions there is no suggested altitude and speed for the jump in the mission briefing.
The flight plan you see in the map screen (the one that kind of annoying spins before accepting the mission), is not the flight plan in the EFB when you accept the flight. A compass on that map screen i mentioned would also be helpful.
In 2020 when you made a flightplan you could check the altitude reccomendations.
I could be remembering wrong, but I think you can fix this before starting a mission. In the pre-flight screen (after you accept the mission and before you fly), open the EFB, find the Flight Plan, click in the Cruise Altitude box, and change it to a reasonable value. Then click “File Plan with ATC”.
I need to do this for Cessna flights. I gather that the number is x100, so I type in “60” for 6,000 ft altitude, correct? And what is the difference beteween FL and FT? I guess FL means flight level? And FT is “Feet”?? which do I use?
This is not correct/normal IRL. I suppose some pilots with health issues could have problems at FL110/11,000ft, but FAA guidelines only require oxygen for pilots if you fly for more than 30 minutes above 12,500ft and at all times that you are above 14,000ft.
As a former IRL VFR pilot, I don’t recall ever flying a C172 above say 8,500ft IRL, MAYBE 9,500ft - unless forced to do so by terrain or you have a monster tail wind higher up! - as there is generally very little practical benefit in doing so. When I owned a turbocharged C210 I did fly up to 11,500ft because the turbo gave you definite speed benefits the higher you went.
Does the sim actually “kill you” if you fly at 11,000ft? If so, this is a mistake. Or it is at least modeling a frail pilot!
Yes, you have it right. Which one you use when interacting with the EFB is purely personal preference, but be aware “Flight Level” isn’t used in actual aviation communication unless you are at 18 000 feet or higher.
FT = feet
FL = Flight Level, add two 0’s to get the equivalent feet
So “18 000” feet would be “FL180” and it’s read out over the radio as “Flight Level One Eight Zero”. “36 000” feet would be “FL360” or “Flight Level Tree Six Zero”.
To set it in the EFB with mouse/keyboard, I recommend clicking inside the number/text box and holding CTRL+A so it selects all the text. Then type the digits you want. Reason being is the text box doesn’t support navigating within it using the arrow keys very well. Using Backspace can make your camera view bounce back and forth between cockpit and external view, which is a bit annoying.
Okay, thanks for the detailed instructions. I tried this yesterday, but it did not work. I tried to set it to 11,000 before the mission, but then the ATC told me to climb to 31,000. Sigh. I’ll try again.
It is a bit distrressing, because I’m trying to get the “Growing the Fleet” achievement, which requires me to buy five planes. After a LOT of grinding, I finally have two planes: Cessna 172 and Cessna 208B. The latter provides me big $$$ missions: $400K credits and upwards. I thought I was on easy street, but I have not been able to fly any of those valuable missions.
Oh, I’m sorry, I seem to have left out an important detail. Once you type the text in that box, hit ENTER, but also scroll down in the EFB and click on “File Plan with ATC”. If you are in a mission briefing that shows the flight plan, you’ll see the flight plan blink off and on again acknowledging the change.
You can repeat changing that value and clicking File Plan over and over to experiment with plan altitudes. That’s helpful in any mission where you fly around mountains. If you look at your flight plan line and see that it goes through terrain, increase the altitude and click File Plan until you have a safe altitude. Likewise, if you want to see it in action, pick a mission around mountains, set the altitude lower and click File Plan. You’ll see the blue line get drawn through terrain.
Protip: For IFR flight plans, the in-game ATC tends to assign you an altitude 1 000 feet higher than what you file, so if you want 10 000, input 9 000 and click File Plan with ATC. I’ve had a lot of luck with that method.
That is still within the real life service ceiling (13,500 ft) and it’s definitely achievable since I once had ATC ask me to climb to 15,000 feet. I did get up there, but barely.
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