Cessna 172S rolling left at cruise

I thought it may have been a dead zone issue as I had a slight left bias on my stick. I opened up the dead zone some so that it sits in there okay. I did the same for the rudder pedals as they had a slight bias too where the springs seem to hold neutral. After the adjustments I do notice some improvements.

However, I’m not sure if it’s now weather related or just flight characteristics. But it got a little tiring trying to hold a heading today.

After leveling off from a turn the airplane would roll left ever so slightly. Engine RPM was around 2200 and I had been flying level around 2800 feet.

I eventually got it to go away by abruptly correcting the other direction by a quick turn of about 5 degrees the other direction. Of course, I was then on the wrong heading but it was at least level.

So it seems if I try to make a slight course correction, it never wants to level off, especially if it’s to the left.

Is this normal for a Cessna 172?

There will always be some turn to the left with a single prop, due to the direction of the prop spin.
You can counter that with aileron trim.
It is really noticeable when you accelerate for takeoff.

I don’t think the 172 has aileron trim irl. I could be wrong.

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Read that discussion on a few other threads, it doesn’t :smiley:

General thought seems to be Cessna 152/172s fly rather level when set to proper cruise and don’t have a trim.

I think too high a throttle might cause it.

But it seems if I turn to a heading the airplane wants to drift back no matter what. Seems there is perhaps an amount of overshoot to do?

I try to hold steady and easy back on the control pressure but it’s like it just roles out unless I give a hard overcorrection.

None of that probably makes much sense. Hopefully I’m explaining well enough.

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How jittery does Windows Gaming Controller show happening on your stick using the Properties dialog? No amount of dead zone will really counteract that. If it’s slowly but certainly forcing a consistent left hand input, it will happen in the sim.

No jitter, just a slight resting position just to the left. It’s less than 1%. I think it was in the default dead zone.

Just took another flight and it seems the harder I snap my turns, the less of an issue it is. The problem seems to happen when I fly gently I suppose?

However, I did have some terrible rudder issues early on I solved by unbinding the stick rudder. In the MSFS sensitivity settings, I could see the twist rudder was going crazy. It never did in the control panel or other utilities.

Auto rudder is turned off?

Yes, auto rudder is turned off along with any other assistance features outside of ATC com.

Put a passenger next to you, it helps.

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I don’t fly the GA’s very often, almost always the big guys.
I didn’t realize that . Thanks.

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Cool idea, maybe even change passenger weights to compensate for the drift.

My weight balance is 170/170.

It seems to me it’s a matter of it I try to make a small course adjustment vs. harder movements. It’s probably my piloting skills.

But it’s not always 100%. I suppose there is some realism here. :slight_smile:

It’s not uncommon for a controller to send a bogus micro signal when it returns to center.
If this is the case, putting in an extremity deadzone can help.

I’ll boost it a little more then. I gave the rudders a larger deadzone bump than I did the ailerons.

Not the normal deadzone, but the extremity deadzone.

Got it, I didn’t change the extremity. I’ll see what that does.

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In my experience, it’s really just a matter of finding the right cruise speed.

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