i’ll give it a shot later on this evening - i hear ya tho, it shouldnt happen at all - but given its out of our hands to fix it properly lol, i’ll give the deadzone shuffle a shot.
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This issue is solved for me by this thread.
With the following throttle config:
I have now this result at full reverse:
At idle:
No more crazy spins.
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Very interesting. And what would the settings be to also include beta range notch? would it be possible?
Yes, holy grail for me is to find a config combination where reverse transition switches from beta to reverse, first detent is idle, and onwards is normal throttle.
I intend to experiment some over the next week or so and try to find it.
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When I bought a medical C208 it did not use the C208 profile I made until I changed the config manually - it seems to be treated as a different plane for profile selection purpose.
all the different possible configs for an airframe are treated as completely separate aircraft, which means they don’t inherit the keybinds OR the EFB preferences. because of course they don’t.
Career Mode locks in a lot of settings and locks out a lot of other settings. for instance, Turbulence is always set to “realistic” (i.e. extremely overdone), and most addons are blocked from appearing in the drop-down menu.
have you turned down Turbulence in free flight mode, perchance?
My prop speed goes ballistic in both career mode and free flight. I’ve tested both several times to verify. I really like to fly that plane too. Hopefully it will get fixed at some point.
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My free flight and career 208Bs work the same… I would love to know what the exact difference is - as in, in what position the throttle lever is in each of them when beta range behaviour starts.
Wouldn’t going into beta when the throttle is pulled back to idle cause the plane to slow down as the thrust is reversed? My 208b issue is that I can’t slow down enough as the prop goes nuts.
I think there is some confusion going on. As I understand it:
Idle thrust is thrust that is in the normal range, above the beta range, is basically slow forward.
Beta range is the neutral, but in that mode the prop speed is not governed, which allows it to spin out.
Reverse thrust is… well, reverse, and is even further back on the throttle.
Hm, if putting my Bravo lever to idle is pushing it into beta, that might explain my experience with unexpectedly drifting backwards on the ground after releasing the parking break.
sigh
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Thank you for the bug report.
We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.
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This is still a problem and even affects using xbox controllers which have throttle detents that separate feather/reverse from forward thrust. If you put the throttle in true idle, it bleeds into beta range and sends the RPM crazy high inducing a ton of drag.
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I am - or at least one of the users - who posted this as a bug. It was explained to me that I had put the throttle into BETA.
I went away from flying the 208B, and tried it out again yesterday. And as you say, the throttle lever is in “Flight Idle” when this occurs, not in BETA.
Further, it makes no sense that the prop would spin up when you lower power, just as you explained.
If you ACTUALLY put the lever into BETA, or “Ground Idle” as it shows on the lever when hovering over it with your mouse, you will go into a nose dive after a few seconds.
This IS a bug.
Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes
Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• I just did a short test flight to verify it, and can confirm that there is an issue with the prop speed. At first I tested the exact value where the lever axis would be put to fight idle by monitoring the prop angle in SPAD.neXt while at parking position (it would be constant down to that value and decrease when going below). Then I changed my thrust lever scaling to that value, so that I could not go below flight idle. After takeoff I got to cruising speed and then slowly reduced my thrust lever. At just slightly before reaching flight idle everything was still good, I had nearly 1900rpm. But at exactly flight idle, the prop would spin up to above 2500rpm. I verified also by moving the lever with the mouse down to the detent, and got the same result. Further testing showed that the prop speed is depending of actual air speed, as I got slower, the prop would also spin slower, until at about 75kn it would reach 1900rpm again.
If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
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This problem exists in most of the turbo props, including the twin engines and water bombing ones.
Using the Bravo throttle quad, this makes it worse. The phsyical lever has now a dead zone from 0-50 %
there are actually FOUR ways to bind the 208B throttle lever.
- THROTTLE AXIS - ground idle starts 30% of the way up, below that is dead zone
- THROTTLE 1 AXIS - ditto
- THROTTLE 1 AXIS (0 to 100%) - ditto (despite the name)
- THROTTLE SET - max reverse at 0%, beta range at 20%, ground idle at 30%, normal throttle above.
why did Asobo use a unique throttle binding for the 208B when every other plane uses the generic THROTTLE 1 AXIS (0 to 100%) for in-axis reversers (it’s even in the name)? i’ll leave that as an exercise for the reader.
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THROTTLE SET appears to mimic the real aircraft throttle lever action. I use the Honeycomb Bravo controller with THROTTLE SET to control my throttle and the only issue is on landing. I can manage the decent phase without issue, and most of the approach phase. I get into trouble just before landing trying to maintain my speed with full flaps between 75-85 KTS. I wish there was a way to create a dead zone between Low Idle and Beta Mode. It is too easy to accidently move into Beta from Low Idle which always results in crashing before touchdown. If I do manage to land and it is not a clean landing, I sometimes see an error message indicating that I landed in an undesignated area. This I don’t understand. I landed on the runway with a bounce or two.
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This a really important clarification on ways to bind. When discusssing issues with managing the throttle on the 208B, it would help if everyone qualify their problem by describing if they are using THROTTLE SET, or one of the three THROTTLE AXIS setups.
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