have only flown 3 or 4 flights, all in Cessna 172, and all of them, once in the air, the tail of the plane is almost constantly going one way and then the other
First I thought that maybe I’m flying with high winds, but in all of these flights?
so I’m thinking that maybe perhaps I have some issue with my controller where I need to setup a dead zone or something
has anyone experience this as well?
I seem to remember C172 being more stable in msfs2020 , so I am thinking that perhaps some controllers might be fighting over the Yaw axis ,
I did look at few videos and I see the similar behavior there, so I suppose it’s expected and perhaps more realistic ( never flown Cessna in real life haha )
this video does seem to show simar behaviour what I see, especially when he is landing
“almost constantly going one way and then the other” isn’t good enough to know.
But in general, yes. Single engine aircraft will always turn (usually to the left) and change pitch unless you use the rudder, aileron and pitch trims. Not all aircraft have all types of trims.
If the effect is most pronounced when at high RPM. If your interested, there are a lot of basic flight maneuver videos on the internet to explain why.
If it is because of turbulence, then yes, that also bounces changes roll constantly. That gets really tiring when flying manually. My aircraft didn’t have an autopilot.
As for winds. The aircraft moves within the parcel of wind, so wind speed itself doesn’t matter. Mixing of winds does. So mountains, hangars, weather fronts, thermals, etc, matter.
I haven’t seen anything in the sims 172 that my old J160 didn’t do so I don’t think there’s any core issues with it. Flying in the sim is harder in some ways because of the controls we use and we can’t feel the forces. There isn’t much Asobo can do about that.
I have quite a bit of time in 172s IRL and this is over done. The 172 is a very stable aircraft. I had to turn my rudder input down significantly because even a tiny tap of the pedal would send the aircraft yawing hard. It also constantly turns left during cruise flight requiring a stick input to the right every few seconds. That is not realistic. The model needs some work for sure.
I have 1500h in Cessnas and they are stable. I managed to get mine working in 2024 and it is also stable. People have been worried about their controllers… is yours OK. Mine is a Thrustmaster and has a canned driver etc and seems to still work. The other thing is under Assistance they now can AI various issues including rudder and trim. Might see what they are doing.
All bets are off if you live like I do near San Francisco where we have the Pineapple Express in town… but real time weather is fun…
ab353, I also have the constantly turning left of 172 during cruise flight. It even happens when I deactive ALL airplane controle imputs. Even at max power or in 2 prop planes(p-factor shouldnt occur in those cases).
I have most assist off, the only ones I have on are for helicotpers
My controller is Logitech Extreme 3d pro
I am getting used to it, some areas appear to be more stable than others so I do think it is tied to weather possibly , but probably overdone as some with IRL experience say
The rapid back and forth yawing is in fact winds. High winds low to the ground will induce that and is part of the turbulence simulation.
This is realistic, but seems a bit exaggerated in both 2020 and 2024. You can improve it by turning down the turbulence setting in assists, it defaults to “realistic” and my personal opinion is that realistic is a touch too strong.
This will be most prevalent when flying across a downwind side of a mountain range as the descending wind gets quite gusty and will slam into your vertical stabilizer.