Cold & Dark Start-up on a runway, water runway, and helipads

Q: Is this a dupe?
A: I did a search using phrase “cold start” and couldn’t find a topic like this.

Q: Why?
A: Some addon airports don’t have parking spots. The sim seems to set a/c to running state when spawning on a runway. This would be a quality of life (QOL) improvement.

Q: How?
A: GUI options like this

options menu:

Always start C&D on a runway: ON/OFF

check box next to FLY NOW:

Start C&D

Q: Sim version?
A: PC, Top Gun DLC.

Edit. Added words.

Personally I think as a sim it should not be possible to spawn in on a runway in any condition, even spawning in on the run-up/hold-short area would be a little more accurate :slight_smile:

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Hi! I think most wishlist items regarding the missing option to start cold and dark were merged into the Include parking at all airports thread. That might the one to vote for! :slight_smile:

I’d like to have the ability to select whether I can start cold and dark or not regardless of starting from a parking spot or directly from the runway, since there are many airstrips (mostly the smaller ones) who do not have parking spots, just the runway. In this case one is forced to always start fully setup on the runway.
In this case it would be nice to be able to select when pressing the fly button if it schuld start cold and dark or not.

I agree; and if not an option/button when starting the flight, it would be nice to have it as a preference setting.

Especially with hardware controllers in the “wrong” state (ie magnetos off, mixture/condition lever in shutoff, etc), starting with the engine(s) running and having them immediately shut down by the hardware complicates things.

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Please please please please please please PLEASE can you add an option somewhere to start cold and dark on helipads, water runways and airfields without parking spots?

It’s really really awesome how you added ten billion helipads to the sim but you’re forced to start hot every time. I really enjoy starting my aircraft up from cold and dark every time so I’m not really gonna ever use all these cool new helipads unless the option is there. Someone did ask someone at Asobo about this and they said it was a toggle and they could change it but later said they wouldn’t apparently, but please make it an option. Not forced, just an option please.

Same with water runways. It was really cool when you guys added water runways to the sim a few years back after releasing some flying boats. But the same problem, you start with everything running as apart from one or two bush trips, and mods of course, there’s no parking/mooring spots at any of these seaplane bases. You could also add a mooring/anchor option using the code from the airship mooring mechanic! Some third party devs managed to implement anchors in 2020, so the official devs should be able to come up with something right? I remember people complaining about this a lot back when the early flying boats were released and I swear some community manager said Jorg was aware of it and will look into it but that was what, 2-3 years ago and still nothing.

And this has been a problem since day one of 2020: there’s thousands of tiny dirt strips around the world without any parking spots so you have to start hot on the runway. It’s even a problem with some of the larger airports like whoever did the air strips for Papua New Guinea in the Oceania update didn’t bother to add parking spots for Kokoda which has a paved runway, and the dirt strips they added also lack them. So can we please have the option of starting cold and dark at these airfields? Pretty please?

I know that it may cause some issues with the walkaround feature, especially for the water runways, but you can make it so in these specific situations you start cold and dark in the cockpit like you did back in 2020.

Please can you consider adding this option. It’s such a shame that you went to all this effort adding the helipads and the water runways and then not giving us the option to start cold and dark on them. Please please please please, begging you. And yes I know I can start at a regular airfield parking spot and slew over but I really shouldn’t have to go faff about with that. Don’t really wanna spend minutes slewing out to a North Sea oil rig for example. Just an option on the Flight Planning world screen, or maybe in the plane configuration screen or on the EFB even would be so cool.

And you could disable the option for airfields with parking spots if you think it’ll annoy people, that’s cool too. Just please, add them for helipads, water runways and airfields without parking spots. :pray: :pray: :pray:

I just found out you can actually kinda do this in 2024. You can’t start cold and dark on an actual runway or helipad but you can select any other spot and then where the runway/parking spot drop down menu is you can actually select cold and dark options. So you can just plop a plane down next to a dirt runway and then select ‘On ground - shut down’ and you’ll spawn there with everything off!
So a workaround but I’l happy with it.




That last one was a bit fiddly as I tried to start as close to the helipad as I could and it kept selecting the actual helipad.

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Mega, I tried starting in the Vision Jet – I wanted something 2024 native. I spawned in on a ramp NOT in a parking space. I chose “On ground – shut down” from the menu. Unfortunately the airplane popped in with the pitot covers still in place, and the gear chocked. So doing it this way doesn’t always work. We may have to select “Ready for flight” from that menu and shut the thing down ourselves to get a cold and dark start. Dang it. At that point it’s no better than starting in a defined parking space.