Continuous light chop in SU9

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Brief description of the issue:

Experiencing continuous light chop (constant, erratic, small deviations in heading, airspeed, altitude
and attitude) at all times and in all aircraft I’ve flown (Cessna 172 G1000, Cub crafters NX, Aerosoft CR9) since SU9.

I’ve been flying with clear skies theme, no wind. (I even tried reducing wind velocity to 0, instead of deleting all wind layers. Occurs at all altitudes.
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Just takeoff and go flying. Seems to occur at all altitudes. Most noticeable in cruise flight.

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Curious if anyone else is experiencing this. Just seems like there is continuous light chop at all altitudes since SU9. Would be very frustrating for new simmers trying to learn basic aircraft control, or new instrument pilots when hand flying.

Anyone else noticing this? Any ideas on how to stop it?

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Isn’t that pretty normal for small aircraft?

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Voted. Last night I actually had a sore wrist after flying the Cessna 152 for an hour. The constant corrections I had to make to offset an unwanted left bank was actually starting to hurt me physically. I shut off MSFS and turned on the old stable P3d. Yes, this new characteristic actually sent me to a different sim for the night. Hope this gets massive votes.

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It’s not abnormal for it to occur during certain conditions, but it is abnormal for it to occur all the time, in all weather conditions, at all altitudes. You should be able to set something to get a smooth ride if you want it.

It’s also occurring in heavier aircraft (Aerosoft CR9) at high altitudes.

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Same here, just done a couple of flights (Spain & UK) in the C152 and despite being on “Clear Skies”, was thrown around a lot. I tried deleting the default wind layer, and leaving it there but set to 0mph, same result. It seems this was reported on the C172 during beta, but was put down to the new CFD modelling: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/feedback-for-cfd-simulation-on-c172/508234/35

Makes learning procedures more, erm, fun.

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SlinkyPrawn6072,
I tried the same fixes, to no avail as well.

I don’t think it’s related to the CFD modeling - I tried flights in the Cub Crafter NX cub and Aerosoft CR9, and all aircraft had that constant, erratic, “light chop” type movement regardless of aircraft type or altitude (and I don’t think the new CFD has been applied to the NX cub or CR9.)

If I recall correctly, I used to get this type of behavior any time I was in a cloud, but not typically in clear air - now it’s everywhere.

For me, it’s just annoying. It would be nice to be able to have a nice relaxing flight in smooth air if I want to, but I can deal. It’s more of a pain for folks that are trying to learn basic aircraft control or instrument flying. Very frustrating if the environment keeps pushing your aircraft off where you’ve set it.

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Seb answered this and said fly in the winter or try flying early morning or evening and it should be much calmer.

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It’s not solely based on wind and hills like it used to be , rather the terrain you’re over and the amount of solar radiation it receives. With clear skies on a warm day you will get a lot of updrafts over built up areas etc that’ll bump you around when flying low.

Fly over water / at higher altitudes or during overcast conditions / early morning / late afternoon when the sun is less intense and you should have a much smoother ride.

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We now have more turbulence modeled in SU9 and this seems to be what you notice here.

Now, it is up for debate if the turbulence is modeled correctly (very hard to model in a way that pleases everyone). But it looks like you are describing SU9 turbulence.

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I just did a flight from Corfu LGKR to Munich EDDM. While the departure was normal, i noticed some really gusty winds during the decent from FL190 all the way down to touchdown, exactly like written above. Winds were reported calm on the ground, and during the final approach i had a headwind variable between 5 and 10 knots. But the turbulence was crazy, it felt like i was stuck in a strong thermal all the time. Definitely did not have this issue before the update. Aircraft was the FBW A320N.

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The Dev’s have made it compulsory and there’s nothing we can do about it except if we want a smooth flight its go to be early morning or late evening. Given that we have control over all the other weather elements of the sim, its rather odd we can’t have a degree of control over this - oh well, get the sick bag out!

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So this new constant turbulence is our new normal? There is nothing relaxing about that and I fly to relax.
P.s. The above video would have been more effective from INSIDE the cockpit.

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Well here you have a video from a real cockpit during turbulence on landing.

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I’ve noticed some increase in turbulence, and in my opinion, that’s a very good thing. I haven’t had any flights where it has been continuous, but I would be okay with that too if it happens once in a while. The goal is realism, and the new turbulence algorithm seems to me to be a step in the right direction.

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What I have seen (no wind) is quite realistic actually. Its convection, it disappears in the morning / evening, flight over water and with cloud cover. The only thing I found wrong with it is that it’s not responding to snow cover.

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This has absolutely nothing to do with this report you have voted for, left turning tendencies are normal for any single engine prop plane.

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Having clear skies with no wind this time of year will almost certainly not be smooth at all in real life.

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Rubbish. It has everything to do with what I voted for. Turbulence is overdone if it is so constant that you never get a second of peace from trying to counteract banking.

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You are talking about corrections to counter left bank, that has nothing to do with turbulence. That’s just the left turning tendency you’ll find on single engine planes. I find the turbulence quite realistic based on real world experience. If you don’t like it, then don’t get into any real aircraft this time of year on a clear day.