I’ve had the VelocityOne Flightstick since Spring and I really enjoy it. My dad also bought one after I told him about it and he likes his as well. It definitely has some flaws but is absolutely the best option out there for Xbox at the moment. I wouldn’t even recommend the HOTAS One to anyone after the issues I had with mine.
I saw a video on youtube this morning where a guy replaced the spring inside with a softer replacement spring from Aliexpress, 15mm x 1.2mm x 18mm Like for less than $5 shipped when I clicked the link he posted. So I’m gonna look into this once I pick it up from Walmart here in Canada. I paid $158 CAD for the Velocity. Turtle Beach wants $169.99 US, Amazon.ca is asking $209.99 CAD.
As I’ve been asked by several of my stream followers to take a shot at flying helis, I’ve got a VIRPIL collective on order. Not sure what I’ve gotten myself into, but it ought to be worth a laugh, at minimum.
Once you get the knack, you won’t want to fly anything else. I fly RC Heli’s and Heli’s only in the SIM except the A320 my all time only airplane I fly in the SIM. I don’t fly the GA planes anymore.
Just picked up the stick. “Wow !”, the quality is miles ahead of anything TM’r puts out. Best looking, feeling stick I’ve ever had the privilage of grasping. lol Can’t believe how well made this is. The spring isn’t at all as stiff as everybody has made it out to be. Boy people over exagerate it. Not any stiffer that the TM’r sidestick. Guys complain for nothing. Can’t wait to try it out on the Heli’s. IMO, I may not have to buy that softer spring from Aliexpress after all.
Anecdote: Doesn’t make that clicking sound like the review on youtube says it does. Whats wrong with these reviewers online. tsk tsk sigh
hey, I cant help but notice that your playing on your oven… could you tell me exactly how many fps your getting? Im assuming such a big piece of equipment would put out some pretty impressive power.
I just put it on top the oven for the picture. lol
So far, I deffinatly don’t like using it for the A320. Do not like the feel period. I’ll stick to the game controller (keyboard, mouse) for the A320 as I have no issue flying it that way. I tried the stick with the AS350 from Cowan SIM, rudder twist action too stiff for my liking. Yep the spring mod from Aliexpress would be warrented to soften the stick axis, BUT, I’m just gonna return the stick tomorrow and wait for something else to come to market one day. Untill then I’ll just keep cruising the planet in the A320. I hate to say this but online reviewers have to stop hyping this stuff up which causes consumers (Like me) to buy it, bring it home, only to return it dissatisfied.
Packed up ready for return
well its not for everyone… hopefully a new brand will break into the market soon.
I received my Virpil gear recently and included in that is a collective. Just working out my mount and I’ll be away. Got to say the quality of the Virpil gear is top notch from what I’ve experienced so far.
I very much doubt that. It’s TB. Virpil, VKB or Winwing for sure but TB nope.
So when I am away from home, my only bet is vJoy that translates mouse into control stick. It doesn’t seem necessary for most people but great for those on the go. Alternatively, has anyone tried using just mouse and keyboard I don’t have any experience with this base configuration.
Edit: miss read OP’s question, vJoy problem isn’t available for XBOX. Maybe a controller is easier to carry on the go.
I hope so because I’m on Xbox, and perepherils are limited to very few sticks you can use. This is frustrating to say the least.
I did mention that… Helis require minutiae of movement and oddly enough the sloppy TM HOTAS works fantastic for it. It is extremely sensitive for registering input which belies its sloppy feeling. It will hold the tiniest input to the point you don’t realize you’re making it, which works great for helicopters, especially since you may be holding that for some time. With a little practice you can pan around the cockpit with the hat while snapping back to cockpit view(I use the center button) and you’re still flying the direction you think you were. I can’t stand the thing for aircraft, but I can use that clunk throttle to feather in for an imperceptible landing on a moving ship, backwards even. I usually end up with my hand off to the side of the throttle using my thumb and forefinger to feather the collective for finesse work.
The TB flightstick works very well for flying light stick GA, particularly warbirds, biplanes, and cub-type aircraft. SR22 and other ‘stick’ GA modern aircraft too. I completely turn down that stupid ‘mouse’ thing to zero. I don’t fly jets much, usually it’s a small business jet so I employ the V1 for that. I would imagine the moment of movement is so abrupt on a fighter at speed the HOTAS would likely work better, for the same reasons it works on heli. But it’s pretty great for aircraft that you fly ‘on the wing’ like a WACO where the stiffness helps modulate, and flying those getting to the hat is no problem. I can’t even move my thumb enough to get to the hat and hold position at the same time in a heli. The HOTAS I’m looking around at scenery, landing with my point of view off to the side, looking at the radio stack, etc very natural, even if using twist instead of pedals(which the TM pedals suck for heli).
Heli on xbox would be best with the HOTAS but with TB pedals, which wont work. TM pedals are fine for aircraft. Somewhat of a conundrum. I used twist for over 20 years so I’m back to just the HOTAS without pedals for Heli, and I could easily land the 500 on 4 well placed paint cans, on a moving deck. Being it’s a sim with no feeling, in a heli you can never be behind it. I can give up some ‘authenticity’ for inherent subconscious control, where I can do it without thinking. A heli pilot IRL just does it by feel, with experience I’m sure they’re completely unconscious to what they’re doing in the air when they see somewhere they want to be. And if using a stick with twist gets me ‘there’ and on to the flying, so be it. 30 years of R/C helis gets you used to oddball controls you have and just ‘fly what you see’.
Turn off the mouse pad, play around with a little sensitivity and fly the NX or WACO around, that’s where that stick shines. Well, after you attach it to a cutting board
And I will say most ‘reviews’ are free controllers sent out to ‘tech bloggers’ who are like ‘lets try to fly an aircraft with this free controller’. So stick to reviews on simmer youtube channels.
Im well aware of the sensitivity of Helicopters cuz I fly RC Helis, the 500 and 600 sizes so I know. I was doing just fine with the TM sidestick flying Heli’s in MSFS untill the dreaded rudder issue cropped up. I fixed it 3 times and it still came back. I’d be flying then all of a sudden the Heli would jerk on its yaw axis for no reason or rudder imput from me. I had enough of it, I was at my limit with it so I trashed it. Plastic junk TM. Why can’t these companies take example from other manufacturers and put Hall sensors on all there axis’s not this pentiometer sensor garbage. I won’t buy a joystick again till someone gets it right. I’ll stick to my A320 with the game controller, mouse, keyboard. I’m doing just fine with it. This joystick fiasco is proof that less is truly more just using a game controller. Incidently I tried rudder pedals, hated having my feet locked to them under the desk. Didn’t like it.
Too bad VKB isn’t compatible with Xbox
We XBOX folk are a little at the mercy of whats there. I know, however in the racing sim equipment they have hubs to use non approved hardware, and Honeycomb is xbox compatible via a hub. You would think the possibility is there to use any hardware with it.
Ya you’d think eh…, I don’t understand their thinking when they design stuff. I won’t let joystick hype online affect my next purchase thats for sure. My gramps introduced me to Aero fly a while back (which I’ve been playing around with silently in the background without bringing it up here) and I’m just using a simple Logitech 3D Pro joystick for the helicopters and its working excellently. In fact I 3D printed a plastic ball in it to replace the plate that sits on top of the spring inside. Now the cyclic feels more realistic. I got the idea from a youtube video. The helicopters in Aero Fly feel so realistic compared to MSFS. So does the A320.
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I really like the proliferation of buttons and axes on the X-52; it keeps my hands on the controls, not wandering all around the room. However, I absolutely agree that, if they’re going to use potentiometers anyway, they should get something that’s not a bargain-barrel reject, and I’d really prefer hall sensors.
Even with Logitech, you’re spending darn near $200 for the HOTAS, and a few extra kopeks for better control axis sensors would elevate the X-52 series to exceptional.
I’d pay it in a heartbeat!
Both mine and my dad’s makes a slight clunking sound when we move the stick to the right. Not just the sound, but it can be felt too, which can occasionally be distracting on landing. Sometimes that sound is worse than other times, sometimes it happens at different angles, meaning its caused by something moving around inside the base, maybe wiring or something. I actually returned the first two I got for this reason, then decided to keep the third since they were all like that and I was in need of a stick.
The other issue that both myself and my dad have had is the little joystick on the top right to smoothly move the camera around. Sometimes when I push it to the left or downward, the camera starts jumping to the left on its own. Like some kind of sensor issue.
Both issues are relatively minor, but issues nonetheless. Still, far better than the horrible jitter issues I had on the Hotas ONE after just four months.
Me too. I mean my Logitech never gave me any issues but to fly the Heli’s in MSFS, I want the precision that only Hall sensors can give.
Glad I returned it. No regrets.