CRJ 550/700 I put them aside!

I bought this Unexplainable and beautiful CRJ 550/700 while ago and I have to say they are very beautiful and flying with them is very enjoyable. Unfortunately I just used them for a few times Ever since I bought! I was focused on how to prepare a flight plan! And unfortunately this challenge tired me out and I put them aside! I will wait for the update in the future so that I can use them again like other planes! I wanted to ask those who work in aircraft development. Please do something that can make these beautiful CRJ 550/700 more usable for those who are interested in flying but not professionally, like me! The only problem that exists at the moment, which is a big problem for me, is that it is not possible to create a flight plan through the MSFS simulator itself as usual! and I must import a SimBrief flight plan!
My advice to developer is that, in future If you want to release a new aircraft please do it usable and implemented through simulator flight plan! That way, I’m sure it will have more buyers. and on the other hand, those who want to use the flight simulator professionally they can do through SimBrief or other Programs! :pensive:

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If you had read the many threads on the CRJ on this forum, you would already know that it was Impossible for Aerosoft to use the MSFS flight planner tool. They designed a custom autopilot with a custom (expanded) nav database. The MSFS flight planner cannot work with their database. This is an inherent limitation of the simulator. So if you don’t like it, blame Asobo.

That being said, you can still enter the flight plan, waypoint by waypoint, in the MSFS flight planner if you want ATC to give you instructions. You will still have to program the FMC in the CRJ or you can import the SimBrief flight plan.

If you are going to ā€œput them asideā€ until Aerosoft updates them, that is simply never going to happen. Since you already spent the money, maybe you could try learning how to perform this basic function that takes 60 seconds per flight. But if you choose not too, you should not bother buying any of the other big third party aircraft from PMDG or QualityWings since they too will not be able to use the MSFS flight planner.

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How do you know?

Because they too want to use a better nav database than the default MSFS one. And they too have custom coded nav systems.

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Probably because in P3d and FSX this was not possible for PMDG/QW/FSL/Maddog/And many other study level. So why would it change just to merely appease the arcade pilots and dumb them down, Which then adds to the overall cost to the end user. They don’t target arcade style flyers, Load and go!

That’s how he knows.

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@mdapol I understand where you are coming from but i doubt any of the developers will reduce the complexity of study level to cater for arcade style flying. Asobo have created all the default aircraft for this purpose. You either learn the systems and enjoy the depth or don’t buy them and fly the basic aircraft available.

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Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. Aerosoft is not going to compromise and ā€œupdateā€ their product to use the default planner. The OP needs to understand that reality.

I honestly don’t understand what this has to do with ā€˜arcade’.
I thought MSFS is using the RW navaids, waypoints etc. and this database is being constantly updated?
If I punch in a SID or STAR, the route and waypoints are matching the real ones.

edit: Flying was so easy IRL (and in the sim) when the aircraft didn’t have FMCs and/or GPSs.

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It is, but it’s not very complete. There is a lot missing. For example, you can download the Navigraph replacement for MSFS that gives a more complete database. And Aerosoft chose to create their own database.

The MSFS Flight planner only works with the default database.

What database is MSFS using? Since they are updating it, I did assume that it’s a ā€˜real’ one as well?

Nothing to do with Navdata. We are talking about programming the fmc to fly the route. Asosbo does not have 1 aircraft that replicates real life aircraft system wise. Be it lateral /vertical or system functions. They are basic aircraft for basic pilots who want to click and fly. That’s called arcade. MSFS has it’s own navdata base. Most study level pilots use Navigraph or Aerosoft navdata. The problem is MSFS flight planner is the culprit here for a lot of new pilots.

  1. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Navdata. How an aircraft flies from one waypoint to another is a completely different issue.

  2. Why are they updating a ā€˜fantasy’ Nav database?

  3. So you can use a certain waypoint in Simbrief, but it doesn’t exist in the MSFS database?

edit: Just tried to google it and I have the impression that MSFS uses NAVBLUE which also supplies RW data and these data are upated every 28 days in the sim as well.

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Some waypoints do, some do not. Some airports have all of their SIDs and STARs present, some are missing many. If you want a complete database, you have to use the Navigraph one. If you don’t care, the MSFS one is sufficient. Aerosoft wanted a more complete database.

So NAVBLUE provides incomplete data for the sim, but complete data for RW ops?

That is completely wrong. The are using the official and current Lufthansa database used all over the world by real airlines.

You say a ā€œlot is missingā€ but you don’t say what. I’ve not found anything missing yet.
So far the only thing that I’ve seen missing data complaints for is for airports with runways under 4,500 feet. But guess what, the CRJ is not allowed to use those airports so it doesn’t show them and that makes complete sense. Why show airports that you cannot an are not allowed to use?

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Apparently so. Or Microsoft doesn’t use the full database for some reason. Check it out yourself. There are several threads here complaining about ā€œmissing proceduresā€ for certain airports.

Do have an example concerning missing Navaids and/or waypoints?

If it has nothing to do navdata then how does the fmc know where to fly? The Asobo navdata is erroneous and full of holes. I’ve tested it and know that there are complete waypoints and sids/stars and IAF’s missing throughout the world. Navblue maybe a great company. I’ve never heard of them. Been sim flying since 2001. I rely on Navigraph and Aerosoft data.! It’s hardly wrong and if it is they fix it quickly.

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Nope. Feel free to do a search though. I chose to use the Navigraph database.

It’s similar for most larger airliners where there are no airports with runways of less than 6000ft.

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