Crystal crashes FS

Upgrading from a G2 the Pimax Crystal crashes FS almost immediately I enter VR.

I’ve installed the two xr tool kit tool, the Crystal seems to work in Stream VR games but not the desktop version of FS

Where might I start to hunt down the fixes

I don’t have my crystal yet waiting for shipping, but do you have HAGS enabled? It should be off.

HAGS turned off. However I’ve deleted the old MS open xr tools and that seems have resolved the matter

Good deal.
Looking forward to getting mine. It’s still “processing” .

Why should HAGS be off? I’m running the crystal (with openXR though), and HAGS on or off doesn’t seem to make any difference for me. Never understood what HAGS really is or does, so I’m curious to learn about it…

Maybe Pimax updated the Software or firmware, last I read it said HAGS caused the Crystal to crash.
Could depend on the GPU because it sends some of the work from the CPU to the GPU.
I guess some people have issues with HAGS on and others don’t.
Most of the game set up guides I’ve looked at recommended HAGS off.

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I followed the advice from one of video, hence turning off HAGS, but I suspect I’ll spend the next few weeks tweaking it. I’ve 4090 and 7800x3d, so decent kit. That’ll mean I don’t have to tweak to get every FPs out

HAGS is beneficial if you have a good GPU but a weaker CPU. Because it transfers some of the CPU load to the GPU.
Like if you have a 4090 but an i5 series CPU then they recommend HAGS.
If you have a more powerful CPU than GPU or both are powerful then HAGS is not recommended.
This what I just read, I’m no expert on this.

Ive had my crystal since July and love it. Sadly Ive given up using it with MSFS because it started crashing after one of the msfs updates around Nov/Dec. I miss msfs so much but lost the will to live spending so much time tinkering with this settibg that setting shader cache openxr hags etc. Clearing the community folder, the rolling cache… an endless list. Then if im lucky half an hour into a flight before it crashes again.

I play DCS and iracing now and it has not crashed once. Ive been playing iracing since July and not one crash. DCS for about a month, no crash. Both are totally awesome in the crystal.

I will try msfs again soon but i have that sense of dread.

That’s probably your problem.

I was suffering random crashes in MSFS recently (at the load or in the middle of flight). Disabled rolling cache fixed the issue in my case.
All runs fine now: Crystal, PimaxXR, OXRT, Almalence…