DA40NG G1000 GFC700 Autopilot FLC Nose Up and Nose Down functions reversed

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:white_check_mark: SIM INFORMATION

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  • Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024:
    MSFS2024

  • Version Build Number (Where do I locate that?):
    1.1.7.0, initial release from Nov 2024

  • Game Platform (Steam, Xbox, MS Store):
    Steam

:white_check_mark: ISSUE DESCRIPTION

FLC Nose Up and Nose Down are reversed

  1. Description of the issue:
    Firstly, thanks so much for the great new version! Too many negative articles online about slow load times, not enough about the vast improvements you’ve made. My bug report is regarding the autopilot. When using the FLC feature on the DA40NG G1000 GFC700 autopilot, the actions of the Nose Up and Nose Down buttons are reversed. When you hit FLC, the reference speed is correctly logged in above the airspeed tape. But when you hit Nose Up, the reference speed increases. It should decrease. And vice versa with the Nose Down button. I believe this was an issue when the original Working Title G1000 add on was introduced and later fixed. But the error has reappeared. I know my assessment is correct as I own and fly this aircraft in real life.

  2. If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
    DA40NG

  3. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
    None added, this is the original release version with no additional mods

:white_check_mark: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)
Every time I use FLC

:white_check_mark: REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue.

  1. Enable autopilot
  2. Hit FLC
  3. Press Nose Up or Nose Down

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  1. What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
    Logitech yoke, throttle quadrant, rudder pedals

  2. [PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
    No

  3. [PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
    Not sure, irrelevant

  4. [PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
    GeForce 1660

  5. [PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
    MSI Gaming Laptop

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I can confirm this is the same behavior on the C172 G1000.

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Diamond DA62 as well.

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Confirm, same issue on the C172

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Confirm on the Cessna 172

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Upvoted; I have not tested this across multiple autopilot systems but can confirm it occurs in the Cessna 172 G1000 as well, as seen below:

In Flight Level Change (FLC) mode, pressing the nose down button should increase the target airspeed while pressing the nose up button should decrease the target airspeed. This is because FLC mode adjusts the aircraft’s pitch ot maintain the selected airspeed. Pressing the nose down button commands the autopilot to increase airspeed by pitching the aircraft down. Pressing the nose up button commands the autopilot to increase airspeed by pitching the aircraft up.

The Nose Up/ Nose Down behavior in FLC mode is currently bugged because it reverses the behavior of the buttons as OP explains.

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Same with the Baron

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same with the da62

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I can confirm I get the same with the C172.
Also, clicking on the heading knob does not set the current heading.

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Seems like all planes with the G1000. I think it was correct in MSFS 2020.

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Double click the knob with both mouse buttons.

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Thanks! I’ll try it tonight.

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Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged

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Plase note the bug also exists in the C172 (and probably in all aircraft equipped with the G1000).

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

Nose up/down functionality reversed in FLC mode

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
all aircraft with a G1000

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
yes/yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Always (was even present in tech alpha)

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. start a flight in any aircraft with a G1000
  2. engage autopilot. Use the ALT knob to set an altitude target above current. Attempt to climb using FLC mode
  3. Observe that clicking “nose up” actually raises the speed that FLC is trying to match, which has the effect of lowering the nose. Likewise (but inverse) for nose down.
  4. Observe that in contrast, nose up/down works as expected in VS mode
  5. [Asobo only] feel embarrassed because this bug was present AND FIXED at some point in 2020, only to rear its ugly head here again. Stupid careless mistake.

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
n/a

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
no

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

• Yes

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• Present or Xbox as well

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It was originally backwards like this, but they fixed it in MSFS 2020. That fix apparently didn’t make it to 2024.

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DA42 is functioning correctly.

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This issue still remains in the new Beta. PLEASE FIX!