I don’t use DCS but I saw that the fighters they have are excellent. It would be great to see their devs develop for MSFS.
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It won’t happen. Stuff is too complex for this platform and the SDK is probably no way mature to handle it.
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They too break things with their updates.
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And probably the aircraft are too different to just port them over.
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IndiaFoxTecho who developed the MB-339, T-45 and Long EZ is also a DCS developer.
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Hello @kaha300d,
I have moved this topic to Third Party Addon Discussion as it is a better fit for this area instead of General Discussion.
Thanks,
MSFS Team
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Seedy! Hope the new gig is going well 
Grats -CalsFM
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The DCS developers work on a platform that accurately models weapons systems, sensors etc. Why would they want to waste that specialist knowledge by making aircraft for a civilian simulator where such skills are irrelevant?
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This should never happen, and that’s why it will very likely never happen.
Eagle Dynamics’ standard for “flight” simulation is extremely high. They use four different kinds of flight model, two of which involves wind tunnel testing and computational fluid dynamics, just for the flight dynamics of their own aircraft and those made by officially approved 3rd party devs.
In comparison, it took the core developers and producer of MSFS 2020 eleven months to add semi-accurate adverse yaw to one of their own default and a very simple aircraft: the C172.
If Eagle Dynamics touch MSFS with a ten-foot pole, their existing fee-paying customer base would abandon them in two days flat. The professional version of DCS is used by the U.S. Airforce for their student pilot training [source: U.S. Air Force Pilots Using DCS World Video Game To Train | Fighter Jets World], while the customers of the PC version of MSFS 2020 are forced to use a Xbox video game that claims to be a “flight” simulator.
So, sorry but nope. Eagle Dynamics have way too much respect and passion for aviation, flight simulation and their fee-paying customers to do anything useful for what is primarily a non-educational, entertainment-only and console video-game at its core.
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And they laughed when I said Xbox was the primary platform they developed MSFS for.
It makes sense from a business perspective, it is what Microsoft would do, and the developer they chose was an Xbox game developer at their core (go to their home page and look at their history)… with experience in PC over time, and I imagine likely because as I understand it Xbox is a PC architecture at it’s core?, built into a standardized platform which Microsoft has total control over.
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You should really give it a try then, it’s excellent.
(and if you prefer ww2 warbird action IL-2 has a broader range of aircraft and the IL-2 Great Battles variant utterly rocks in VR, very smooth, very intuitive.)
IL-2 Cliffs of Dover is older, almost more of a community project and it doesn’t have VR yet (they are implementing it) but it’s often on sale cheap as chips on Steam and it’s jolly good fun and you get a lot of playable aircraft in the package.
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Well, it would probably be a possibility to sell a large number of copies. Isn’t it all about money at the end?
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As a DCS user I would prefer they remain seperate. It takes a very long time to develop solid modules for DCS and porting them to MSFS would firstly take more time away from DCS releases and secondly require them to be stripped of all the sensors, flight models, weapons and amazing sounds that makes DCS so great. Most DCS devs are very small teams that are stretched as it is.
Why not try DCS? The base game is free and modules now have free trial weeks.
DCS aircraft don’t just look pretty (which is the only part of them that could properly be ported over), they have some of the most complex systems modelled in sims today.
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I use both, DCS for military’s stuff, its a ball. MSFS for just flying around in a sim, also a ball.
Some Developers are doing both MD-339.
Clouds were recently added to DCS - I’m thinking that MSFS had something to do with that… :).
Competition is always best.
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Let DCS, MSFS2020, Condor 2, X-plane 11 be separate. The best in specific kind of flying
I belong to the people using them all. Anybody here?
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I only use MSFS, DCS, X-Plane 11 and IL2. I hope that some day it is enough to have only one civilian simulator. I use X-Plane to VFR flights with helicopter or Ikarus ultra-light. Some sceneries are better on X-Plane and MSFS has no official helicopter support.
I would like to get Harrier to MSFS but sim is not ready for that.
The professional version of DCS is used by the U.S. Airforce for their student pilot training, while the customers of the PC version of MSFS 2020 are forced to use a Xbox video game that claims to be a “flight” simulator.
DCS isn’t used for USAF student pilot training (and never was). DCS was used by a couple A-10 squadrons and looks to be used now by the A-10 training squadron for practice sessions for people who are already winged pilots. You’re not considered a student pilot after graduating from pilot training (as in T-6, then T-1 or T-38 training). After graduating from pilot training, you’re simply “a pilot” going through a training program in your follow-on aircraft. I know, that probably seems like a pedantic nuance.
On the other hand, a MSFS version is used for portions of an updated USAF student pilot training syllabus called “Pilot Training Next.” The aim is to replace some of the in-aircraft training with PC based simulators and VR hardware. They are actually reducing the in-aircraft flight time because of the VR setup. It uses P3D with a T-6A Texan II module designed by A2A.
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No I would not abandon DCS - I would be happy to finally fly my jets somewhere else than in the small Nevada map. Unfortunately the DCS team don´t have any scenery developers, which means there is only a small Nevada and Syria map to buy.
The new Mariana Isles map is great but also way too small.
Oh and if they could manage to port the flight dynamics I finally would be able to make landings in Flight Sim 20 that don´t look ridiculous 
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What? Really? I can finally try their new A-10? For a full week or so? Fantastic thank you so much for this info!
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No problem! It was a great move by ED. The more the merrier!
Edit: I did have a link to ED explaining the trial system but the ‘Community’ deemed it should be hidden for some obtuse reason. Feels like being at Avsim sometimes!
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