There’s been a ton of threads regarding poor photogrammetry, Bing data, etc.
I just rewatched the link video where Jorg talks about the World Improvements. Did any of this make it into the Sim? I’m seeing Bing data and photogrammetry from ~2013 in places like NYC.
Threads are threads, the sim itself is different.
No. A ton was left. Even msfs support confirmed to me and others who submitted tickets. Much to be desired and to come later for aerials
He asked if “anything” had made it, not if “everything” had made it.
So the answer is clearly YES. Quite a lot - I would dare say even: MOST, has actually made it into FS2024.
But not everthing - yet.
Fair. Yeah. But still none the less disappointing and not released as marketed
Thanks. What exactly did they confirm?
Also, apologies for the wording, I know that obviously some level was of the video was incorporated.
They showed maps and gave a number of 500 total TIN cities in 2024, however there hasn’t been a single new TIN city since the last CU/WU for 2020.
Is this the TOTAL number they HOPE to reach by 2028? Because there certainly aren’t 500 TIN cities ATM. Sadly, many seem to be more boring midwestern US cities, with a few nice surprises in Africa and Japan (would be nice to have a huge TIN Tokyo region).
How do you know there hasn’t been a single new TIN city since the last WU for 2020? This is all now on the servers, there are no more updates with PGG files downloaded to our PCs.
Here’s a random city in Florida, clearly never was TIN. From this picture, it is more than evident it is now
One of these?
If so, then it was in 2020. There is only one red dot (new addition to 2024) in FL and it looks like St Augustine. Most of FL is PG’d not TIN, you can tell because PG wants to make everything into a cube, while TIN has more granular detail (mostly compared to wax/clay).
can anyone provide coordinates to one of the countryside tins? i can’t seem to find any, its all autogen
They confirmed a few things
1-marketplace is delayed
2- 2020 content rollout is slow and delayed due to testing. Both for items not appearing in “my library” at all, as well as the Not Available label.
3- that new TIN, photogrammetry, and aerials for urban areas was planned for end of 2024. But it got delayed as it’s taking more time to process.
No formal eta for any of the above to be completed.
This is an awesome update. Thanks for letting me know!
You’re welcome.
Now let’s just cross our fingers this is actually true and that a release won’t be painfully slow and staggered. We were all excited from the global event of new imagery covering the US and elsewhere, but yeah delayed. For me, I’m specifically hoping for the Chicago area to be improved in quality and coverage space. West of ohare is generic and inaccurate to real life. Missing buildings and key icons on approach into Ohare. I recall Jorg saying they wanted to ensure at least all airports had good coverage around the airport so that approaches would be realistic
We’ll see. I hope we get official statements from Jorg on it too. Last he said was some months ago that the new shared world of 2020 &20204 would be 1-2 months delayed post launch from being implemented. Once done, you’ll see the same stuff in both sims. So maybe then? Idk
Also found this quote regarding updated aerials and the decision to close the world hub when they did.
So we’re not even playing 2024, this is still just 2020 with career mode…
