Difficult to stay on the centerline

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I am not sure if it’s me or the sim or the settings of my pedals, but I find it quite difficult to stay centered on the runway during take off and landing. I have tried to play a bit with the sensibility curve, but I haven’t found yet a good result. For the single engine props I could imagine that I was not compensating well for some effects like the prop counter torque, but I have similar issues in the A320.

I have to keep correcting the steering continuously and sooner or later I overcorrect, and I start some kind of zigzagging along the runway, requiring full deflection of the pedals to somehow stay out of the grass.

Any good tip or advice?

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I have the same problem; it is like if the rudder gets stuck, it is less noticeable with Carenado planes.

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I think it’s the planes. Carenado planes handle like a dream on the ground. You still get weathervane effect from wind, prop effect, etc, but it doesn’t seem anywhere near as squirrely.

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One of the things Asobo did right is the aircraft veering left or right. Go to youtube and watch aircraft takeoff front and side veiw. The pilots will adjust the wheel alot and fast and large movements to keep aircraft on centerline. I have learn to stay centerline by adjusting fast and quick with whatever movement is needed to keep centerline. Slow small, large big and fast or whatever it takes movements.

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I’m having issues with this since last update. 10 knots of wind and I have to apply full rudder to stay centered.

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I am usually OK on takeoff, but landing can be difficult. Taxing to parking it feels like my foot is going through the floor. I have been landing with some pretty good crosswinds though.

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I’m having a lot of issues with this since last update.. At first I thought it was me, or my pedals. My normal compensation for the prop torque doesn’t seem to work these days. I’m all over the place it’s like taking off on ice. Current update is a disaster.

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I think it’s the game. I’ve had happen since the update on the A320 and the 747 intermittently. As soon as I go full throttle it pulls bigtime to the left.

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Do you go full throttle from the start or after a short roll at half power than full throttle. In the 747 you suppose to apply full toe brakes and raise power to half and then let go of brakes and after a short roll than apply full throttle. Too much power to quick will make every plane want to go off runway.

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I have tons of takeoffs in Cessnas. Never had any problem keeping them on centerline with minimal control inputs, even on windy days.

This is NOT something that was done right. The rudder is far too sensitive.

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The application of half throttle is to give the engines time to spool up. If symmetrical power is applied on an aircraft like the 747, there should be no yaw.

And no, every plane will not veer off the runway like that.

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A Cessna? They dont put out more than 50,000 pounds of thrust per engine!!!

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Have you ever actually flown an airplane?

I have. I’m also an aerospace engineer by trade. You really don’t know what you’re talking about. The four left turning tendencies affect the aircraft (single engine propeller driven aircraft), but not as much as happens in this sim.

Also, it’s horsepower, not thrust, when talking piston engine airplanes.

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Thats why I was talking about jet engines and thank you because I am an engineer also.

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Jet engines do not produce torque, slipstream, gyroscopic precession, or P-factor.

Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. A jet (as opposed to a turbine driven or piston-engine propeller) will not produce these tendencies. Apply full power on a jet that is lined up on centerline and the aircraft will go…straight down the centerline.

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Same issue no matter the plane my pedals are useless no matter what settings i use it is either all the way over with the smallest press or stuck all the way over there is no smooth transition . I hate to say this but again Xplane I have zero issues its smooth as butter..so far other than the visuals MSFS falls short in every category… plans do not randomly spin out of control from straight level flight, systems work, Joystick assignments do as advertised controls are smooth, weather is accurate..and it sucks because i really really wanted to love this sim so much..

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I opened a topic about this yesterday. With keyboard control it sometimes even will veer off the runway and it’s impossible to steer back. Mostely above 80kts.
First i thought it was somewhat wind related, but that would be way to much.

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There is an option in Options, Assistance for helping with Rudder control. I may turn that option back on again. But, I have not messed with the rudder sensitivity settings in a while and it may be that too.

Only you will know if you have that assist turned on. No guilt!

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Its the SIM setup that is lacking.

GA specific

No GA aircraft that I have flown for real veirs off the centreline so strongly as they do in MSFS.

Yes, there is a torque effect of the rudder in real life but that is easily corrected by small rudder movements, by comparison small rudder movements in MSFS causes a massive change in direction.

As the velocity of the aircraft increases the torque effect changes which again in a real aircraft is easily managed, MSFS control is another matter.

Its an Asobo solvable issue with the aircraft that they have so far failed to resolve.

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While I’m not disputing claims that the torque model might be over done, I do wonder whether people are flying with live weather by default and underestimating the wind.

A real Cessna 172 for example has a crosswind component limit of only 15kts.

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