Difficulty maintaining the orientation of the aircraft

For the first three-point aircraft, when the nose wheel lifts off the ground when taking off, and when the main wheel touches the ground when landing, the direction of the aircraft is very difficult to control due to the influence of the crosswind, and the rudder seems to have no obvious effect. When the aircraft completely lifts off the ground or all three wheels After grounding, the direction can be controlled.
For the last three o’clock plane, there is this problem as well.
So flying in crosswind weather is very painful and very unreal.
I don’t know if Asobo has noticed and improved it. Especially with fenix320 and milviz PC-6, this problem is very obvious.

I found that turning on “Rudder Assistance” in the Assistance Menu helped. It especially helped when dealing with a crosswind. If using a Flight Stick in Win10/11, you can use the Control Panel App, Devices and printers, Right Click on your Joystick, select properties, test and calibrate your joystick within windows. I found my flightstick responds better after a short calibration. I attached a screen shot.

sorry i can’t find “Rudder Assistance” in Assistance Menu :o( can you tell me where can i find it ? thank you !

is that auto rudder ?

Yes, that’s it… That is the only assistance that I have turned on. I’ll boot into my MSFS and check that I have told you correctly. Nothing worse than bad info…
Update: Yes, correct: Options, Assistance Options, Piloting, Auto Rudder.
That helped me. I included a screen shot.

thank you very much !

We’ve been trying to get Asobo to address these issues for a while now. Auto-rudder ON nullifies nearly all crosswind effects, which is lame, and with Auto-rudder OFF the plane windvanes drastically in even the mildest of crosswinds, which is also lame. It’s a no-win, lose-lose, situation.

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Slightly steering the yoke/joystick in the opposite direction to your pedals helps keep the wings level which can make things easier … Mind you it does take some getting used to.

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I agree with your assessment. I always liked a bit of crosswind way back IRL but in the MSFS, it just feels wrong no matter what. Maybe they will address some of the basic concerns one day but for now it seems they are more concerned with marketing content.

There’s a significant change in wheel footprints coming up which should add to realism .. But it still won’t change the fact that crosswinds are difficult territory.

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This operation has no effect on fenix320, still thank you very much, it may be the problem of Asobo itself.

Yes very poor physics when on the ground. Seems to not be a priority to get fixed.

This is a very serious problem that overturns the perception of so-called advanced physics engine simulation.

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Don’t feel you’re ‘cheating’ by turning on Rudder Assistance as the current physics are nowhere near real life feel on x-wind TO’s and Landings. Instead they’re massively over-exaggerated and unrealistic. As said Asobo are meant to be addressing this sometime in the furure but I wouldn’t hold your breath.

I notice the same issue when having the auto rudder turned off. It seems that when landing in a crosswind the aircraft windvanes quite drastically. After doing some research I found that this is actually realistic and you need to counteract this by putting in aileron in the opposite direction to the wind. So when landing in a crabbing position you will put rudder in just before landing to line up properly. Then as the main gear touches the ground you put in aileron (in the opposite direction to the wind). I’ve tested this out and seems to work and is actually true to life.

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It’s called “advanced”, not “realistic” :joy:

THIS. It is true that the ground physics of the tires when still in contact with the runway are not optimal in MSFS. Asobo is working on improvements in this area, and tire friction is part of the problem. But is is not the only reason some sim pilots are having issues with crosswind landings and takeoffs.

You cannot control an aircraft in a crosswind using rudder alone. That is as true in real life as it is in the sim.

You must use ailerons as well as rudder. You hold ailerons into the wind, and rudder away from the wind. So with a left crosswind, you would hold left aileron and right rudder. I have landed the PMDG 737 and Aerosoft CRJ in reasonably strong crosswinds and had no serious problems tracking the runway centerline.

Another issue may be they are coming in way too fast. Ive tried both in the 172. Land at the stall horn all is good. Land anything about that or 60 kts? Im all over the runway.