Discussion + Poll: Sim Update 10 (1.27.21.0)

C: files are Symbolic Links to your D: files.

They didnā€™t look like sym links canā€™t say Iā€™d seen user.cfg on my d drive installation anywhere :thinking:

Not that it matters anyway it works :+1:

Anyone else getting just awful stutters with this update? Before, was getting great performance during sim update 9 and most of the beta, 200 LOD, mix of high and ultra settings (12700k/2060s/32gb/NvME), but now, no matter how much I dumb down the settings, the stutters while panning are just atrocious. Strange thing is that frames are actually pretty good, mid 30ā€™s/high 40ā€™s at heavy scenery, just as soon as I pan more than 30 degrees itā€™s hiccups so so bad.

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It can matter to anyone reading these posts who can be confused about it.

I edit my UserCfg.opt file on my C: drive with Notepad.
It is a Symbolic Link.

But, the physical file is on my D: drive.

I started getting terrible stutters the moment I installed Windows 11 2H22. I gave up and went back to Windows 10 clean install . I spent almost the entire day reinstalling addons. The difference is almost night and day. Not suggesting you do the same.

Its been hugely frustrating as its very inconsistent i moved the install folder, validated the files and now its broken againā€¦ so i now have to go delete 1 specific folder all over again to get it to move again

Great news and what did the support team do, to help fix the issue? Any tricks up their sleeves?

Ya a few but they basically mean starting literally from scratch and recoinfiging flight sim as if it was just installed. Sadly for me it seems to be broken again. They have been very helpful through the whole process so far, so certainly not a knock on them. some of their suggestions are somewhat basic trouble shooting steps however one of them which is the one thats baically like starting over is to delete one specific folder thats under this PC > C > Steam > userdata. Search for a folder under one of the ones showing thats called 1250410 and delete it. As i said though your basically starting from scratch so if you have nothing to lose it does get it moving. That being said FS is still finikey for me so cautions advised

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How do I let the developers know that SU10 has locked out my keyboard controls on Xbox Series X?
This is a major issue for me, and I need it addressed.

The dreaded drop in fps has just happened to me.

Currently flying EGLF-EYVI. Had average of 35fps on the ground at EGLF. Burning Blueā€™s EGLF, that is. Itā€™s a very detailed dlc airport, so I accept some deterioration of fps there. Once I took off my fps started to climb, even as I passed over London. Eventually I had a steady fps of about 70 as I climbed higher. Then suddenly, as I passed over the northern coast of Germany, at FL450, my fps plummeted and now sits at 10fps.

Iā€™ve looked at task manager and there is nothing of note there. Certainly nothing heavily using disk, memory or CPU. Even FS doesnā€™t seem to be using much.

I went into FS settings and turned off multiplayer, AI aircraft, and even all online functionality. Nothing improved the fps. The only time fps increased was when I paused the game to go into the settings. As soon as I pressed ESC the fps jumped to 87. As soon as I unpaused the game, the fps dropped again to 10.

Eventually, I saved the game, shut down game and rebooted PC. Then relaunched the game from the save, and all is well again with fps of 77.

HAGS is off,no GeForce overlay (not even installed), latest driver (517), Win 11 22H2. All day yesterday (3 flights) all was fine. Very good in fact.

I wonder what is causing the random drops in fps. Seems to happen randomly. Strange indeed.

Saving a game and relaunching from save does mess up the logbook, but I donā€™t use it anyway. I have an Excel spreadsheet on which I record all my flights.

Win 11 22H2 (all up to date)
i9-10900k 3.7 GHz CPU
RTX 2060 GPU
32 Gb DDR4 RAM
1x ginger tabby cat as co-pilot.

So Iā€™m assuming you were in a wide body jet of some kind?

old usb problem still there. plug wire to mouse = freez

Cessna Longitudinal (FS default).

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You may want to take that conversation over to this thread instead:

Youā€™re absolutely right. Many thanks for pointing that out.

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I desperately need someone to save my sanity pleaseā€¦

I was on the SU10 beta and when SU10 officially was released I had an update of a couple KB. It DID show 1.27.21.0, Iā€™m 100% sure. The gusts in real weather were unbearable, they threw me around like crazy and I quickly scrapped MSFS, played other things and said to myself that whatā€™s left for me is DCS. I tried it again 2 or 3 days later, hoping that it was just a server problem, but ecountered the same issues again.

Two days ago someone told me that the issue with the gusts were only in real weather and since ANtā€™s Airplanes released my loved and sadly missed Tiger Moth now I purchased it and started the sim. This time I was granted with a ~600MB update to, yes, 1.27.21.0 showing me the change log and everything. I frowned, updated, started the sim, jumped into the Moth in VR and took off with real weather from a small airfield in Wales. Yeaaah I know, Youtube influences lolā€¦ Anywayā€¦ The gusts were totally different. Nothing like what I experienced before (which was 2 days after the official release of SU10!!). Totally bearable, controllabe, enjoyable. The wild and aggressive twitching of the airplane was gone, I could fly around in VR and enjoy the scenery (Wales is adorable btw).

What in godā€™s name has happened here?? I mean, I know that this sim is weirdā€¦ but this? People complain in every forum about the real weather gusts and I experienced them too and now I get the same update again but with much more content and suddenly everythingā€™s fine or what? :thinking: I donā€™t get it.

Have you tried reducing your off-screen terrain caching value in the general options => graphics settings?

lately i got tortured by CTDs, i tried a ā€œsoft-resetā€ now on series x, cleared the rolling cache and deleted the ā€œreserved spaceā€ of the game on my xbox, i had to reinstall all world updates and later i will give this sim another try, hopefully without any ctds

Iā€™ve stayed in DX12 since the start of the beta and now into SU10 proper. Very happy generally with performance and Iā€™m not seeing the issues others are reporting (yet). I just started popping out panels onto monitors connected to the iGPU on my CPU, instead of via SpaceDesk, along with the main view and two other screens on a 3080Ti, and Iā€™ve noticed the FPS penalty for pop-outs, which had all but disappeared, is back when using the second GPU. This doesnā€™t entirely surprise me, though, as cross-GPU rendering between two different GPU chipsets is always going to hit the main GPU harder since it has to copy data to the other GPU all the time. I would have put in a second Nvidia GPU but I literally canā€™t fit it on my motherboard as the 3080Ti is a triple-slot monster.

My GPU timings have gone up, and the performance line is showing regular red spikes, but FPS is still decent, I can get 30FPS pretty much anywhere with stock aircraft or most 3rd party aircraft. I havenā€™t tried a beast like the PMDG, though.

Does anyone recall if there was ever any ā€˜officialā€™ guidance on the best way to configure multiple-GPU setups? When I eventually go multi-monitor for the outside view then I will need to connect 7 displays to one PC and Iā€™ll have to find a way to cram a real extra GPU into my setup.

Maybe it helps for some people - I had a complete reinstall (clean) of the latest Nvidia Game Ready drivers.
Although there were no new drivers, and I was on the latest version, I did a clean reinstallā€¦
All of a sudden my stutters are gone - temps were dropping - and all is smooth again!

I have no explanation, but this helped me a lot with little to less effort.