Discussion + Poll: World Update IV (1.15.7.0)

ArcanePython931 · April 15, 2021, 6:14pm

Not as I have seen and I own MSFS since start of November 2020, so I’ve seen autum, winter and spring now. Of course, for a large part it works If you fly “life weather” then you DO get life weather. But the Dutch tulip fields are not dependent on the weather, they are there (colored) only for a few months. It looks really silly to show the Dutch Tulip fields in november, or partially covered by snow.

When Asobo will get the seasons in.. the Dutch tulip fields are the perfect place to test it.. and show it off.. there will be more MSFS updates in the future and I hope it will be in there soon.

Community is a matter of trust. I have a few sceneries like EG80 sailplane, LS-60 and EHEH that I trust, because I know the creators from the forums. As a hobby SDK-developer, I would love to create season-dependent sceneries like the Tulip fields.

When flying, I also miss water tides. Sea level is not a constant ! River level varies with rain, for example. Especially in the Netherlands ! MSFS shows rivers with stationary water, a moon with zero weight and a sun that orbits around the earth. Season is easy to solve, water tide is not.

andyjb1037219 · April 15, 2021, 6:22pm

LFMN is poorly optimized. Very laggy and poor fps.

AirlinerX · April 15, 2021, 7:00pm

I have the impression that we have the same problems before SU3 with airplanes in general (behavior). At least in 3 airplanes (A20N, TBM9 and C172) I noticed the same problem with heavy controls and flare fluctuation when touching the runway. Could anyone check if you noticed that too?

BubbaBlitz7348 · April 15, 2021, 7:39pm

LOL my comment about fanbois was just that and directed at fanbois and not the people who are buttery smooth but are trying to help. There is a difference ya know.

Nothing changed on my machine when this happened, as is with most of the people reporting. I personally am still of the belief that it is more server side then anything. Take today for example, I can fly any plane at 25-45 FPS from today it was 6:15 am, buttery smooth (though I really like the chunky butter myself) .. the magic hour roles around and BAM! 20-15-10-2 … Its the same thing everyday, I can get back on from 14:00-16:00 or so and its good again, start getting around the 17:00 and bam the same old 30-20-10-1 routine, until about 19:45 and then it will smoot out again.

Since from what I can check on this end as far as network connection and processes etc its all running exactly the same. Run Traceroutes, nothing that would account for it here. So that pretty much leaves Server issues. If you read about the history of Azure the last couple of years and there are plenty of stories out there about it, you see plenty of references to the servers being under extreme loads.

Hell I just read one yesterday about the new “Immersion Technology” that they’ve instituted at the Seattle Azure farm, they hope it will be the next step into make the servers run more efficient.

ATPL2006 · April 15, 2021, 7:51pm

Here is an interesting one about the freezes that people are seeing.
We are currently doing a group flight in Normandy, using the South East Asia server. There is not much traffic on this server, so all is looking good.
We were 8 people flying, without any issues.
Then we had a 9th person joining, and the freezes started. He confirmed he is using a livery that doesn’t come with the sim.
So he switched to a different livery. The instance he switched to the Main Menu, the freezes for us were gone. VERY IMPORTANT → We all had the same freezes at the same time.
But as soon as he switched back to the Main Menu, the freezes were gone.
So he switched to the standard livery, came back, freezes are back. So he left again, and the instance he left the freezes were gone.
This is when he mentioned tat he has a C208 Mod installed ! He was the only person on the Group having a Mod. All others were using the default plane. The C208.
So he left again, switched to a standard plane, with standard livery, joined back on the flight, and all is good ! No one has freezes anymore.

So to summarize: 9th person joining with non-standard livery + Mod → everyone on the flight had freezes
He leaves the flight, all is back to normal
He switches to a standard plane with standard livery → all is good

The setting we use is ALL_PLAYERS, not Group Only neither Live Player. Just ALL_PLAYERS

Also an interesting point to mention is that the 9th person who caused the freezes for us had a flashing nametag in the sim. All others where steady name tags, but the person causing the issue had a flashing tag.

EDIT: We just figured out, because we tried, that add-on airplanes don’t seem to cause the issue. At least the Spitfire add-on doesn’t. Only a plane from the simulator using a mod seems to cause it.

Hope this helps to troubleshoot. I thought i’d post it here

Thanks

mrcotnmouth · April 15, 2021, 8:16pm

Fix the downloader. It’s taking me a week to get the update. Keeps getting hung and resetting.

Gelfling62 · April 15, 2021, 9:12pm

Never mind! There are these days …

ArcanePython931 · April 15, 2021, 9:19pm

Indeed.. Netherlands near Groningen, Eelde Airport GRQ. Great improvement !

Donws1957 · April 15, 2021, 9:22pm

I’m a little confused. The sim seems to run differently depending on either a) what time i fly,
or b) where I fly. I am continuing to test this.

So, my question is… can I continue to update the pole at the top of this thread? I have edited it a couple of times, but I’m not sure if the Devs only see your original submission, or do they continue to see you subsequent edits?

I used to use my local airport as a benchmark. The fps has dropped about 6 fps there. But, as I fly around France, I get pretty good fps. So, right now i am a little in-conclusive. But, overall, i think I have lost about 6 fps, which in my case is significant.

System Information

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trashmon49 · April 15, 2021, 10:36pm

My Store simply does not recognize the update. I’m stuck on 1.14.6.0 and don’t know how to get out of it. Reinstall? Really!!??

moxiejeff · April 16, 2021, 12:45am

Have an i9-9900, 32gb RAM, RTX 3080 and my sim came to a stuttering crawl over Paris… like terrible.

I finally was able to get into the menus, turned off multiplayer, and all is back fine.

So why is multiplayer killing the sim??

moxiejeff · April 16, 2021, 1:01am

Asobo, you’ve got to figure out how to fix this mess – multiplayer at LFPG is a nightmare on a high-end rig, with a high-speed internet connection!

Ignore the bad video quality as I’m using HDR and this doesn’t show HDR…

SvenZ · April 16, 2021, 3:20am

Question: What is the plane for the current spotlight challenge?

It says one or more required items are not installed, go to the content manager to download them. But it doesn’t say what is needed of the 123 items I don’t currently have installed…

I can’t figure out how to narrow the search down to planes.

Bullett4 · April 16, 2021, 3:43am

It’s fixed. Check again.

ATPL2006 · April 16, 2021, 5:40am

Check my post a little further above. If someone has certain mods, this kills the sim until you switch off multiplayer, because then this person with specific mods is gone.
The entire explanation is a just a few posts above. You can read it there.
They need to fix this ASAP in my opinion

ExtraPilot6480 · April 16, 2021, 5:57am

The list of “not installed” items is actually one of the new bugs - they probably are installed, just not labelled correctly. They’ve promised a patch for this: https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016027399-KNOWN-ISSUES-Last-modified-April-14-2021-

The problem you are having may be due to conflicting scenery in your community folder. Try emptying this first. Also, if you’ve got London Landmarks from Orbx installed, you should uninstall it at the moment, as it conflicts with WU4, though I don’t think this is likely to be your problem. Otherwise, wait and see if the promised hotfix does the trick.

This is the unfortunate situation we are in at the moment - new bugs are currently a way of life in FS2020.

onlyforbrian · April 16, 2021, 6:20am

I just want to thank the developers for doing such a great job on update IV . Paris is amazing!

Boobbuster007 · April 16, 2021, 6:42am

Hi,

You have to download WU4 via Marketplace👍🏼
It should be pop up when done.

tamalien · April 16, 2021, 7:39am

For everyone experiencing issues with multiplayer since WU4, there is now a voteable thread on the issue found here https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/mutli-player-stuttering-after-world-update-bug-report/391922

Donws1957 · April 16, 2021, 9:25am

Flew from Brussels to Amsterdam. Brussels was beautiful. But Amsterdam never fully loaded. Melted buildings. I even flew around the city to give them time to load, but they never did. But all the World Update looked just beautiful.