The good and bad news:
VNAV LNAV FMC AP AT AUTOLAND all work, but AUTOBRAKE does not, necessitating a last minute AP disconnect.
Asobo please fix in next patch…
Not sure if I missed it, but was reverse thrust deployed?
The nose gear touched down before the main gear. You should have approached at a lower speed than the FMC Reference. With the latest patch, we can approach to the runway at a speed lower than 140 knots.
Yeah, the FMC got the autopilot to bring you fairly close to the piano keys horizontally and vertically, but not without a lot of unhappy passengers requiring different degrees of medical attention.
Also, you don’t show the cockpit displays, which would give more information on why it landed more like a winged brick than a modern airliner.
Now seriously, reasonably good LOC and ILS glidepath follwing is just that, certainly not the same as AUTOLAND, just take a peek at the PFD around second 57 here:
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You broke the plane on landing that’s why.
Thanks for sharing the video. I didn’t realize the speed could be as low as that on approach. Looking forward to try that in my next flight.
I had been following the approach speeds in the MCDU, which was mostly like 159 kts. Once it showed 149 kts.
Sorry I missed one point: AUTOLAND requires extra logic that the Asobo 787 may not have yet in,
For example, I have never seen an Asobo AP starting a FLARE, not indicated on the displays, not seen in flight.
The best I have seen the Neo do, is float indefinitely over the runway, more otten than not it will slam front-gear-first.
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Exactly. No MSFS aircraft can perform an autoland.
There’s no flare, no automatic thrust reduction and the AP shouldn’t disengage at touchdown.
Sorry your wrong… the A320 Autolands, and flares during it… a actual UK A320 pilot demonstrates this on u tube…
Whilst it is a bit hit and miss, i believe the Flybywire version is better.
Don’t know where you saw a flare in the video. You have a time stamp?
Again, no MSFS aircraft can autoland. Plain and simple.
Look at the display, and he mentions it…
He talks about the flare mode and it’s displayed on the FMA, but it definitely does not occur!
He even comments that there wasn’t a real flare.
The FMA also says ROLLOUT, but it doesn’t occur either.
Furthermore the video is 2 month old and the FDM isn’t the same as it is now.
In the video you can see some noticeable pitch oscillations below ~200ft.
Luckily this doesn’t happen since a few versions anymore.
Agenda? What are you talking about?
I’m only pointing out that MSFS can’t perform autolands.
This should keep customers from having wrong expectations about AP/AT capabilities in MSFS.
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Sorry again, but i think i would believe what a real A320 pilot states instead of a Sim wanna be…
The Sim does replicate Autolanding, as i have done it numerous times… I am begining to wonder why all the negativity???
It may not be perfect, but it does work… and to say it does not is totally wrong!
This has nothing to do with negativity.
Every aircraft in MSFS simply follows the GS until it hits the runway, without any thrust reduction and/or flare.
That’s NOT an autoland. Not even close. That’s what I’m trying to explain all the time.
If you think that this is similar to real life, I suggest you watch a few RW autoland videos.
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I watched that video by the A320 pilot and it seemed to fail several times, only surviving two attempts and not even doing it properly in both of those attempts. The first failed to flare and failed to brake, the second flared marginally, and still failed to brake. So, no, it cannot auto land.
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The 787 has been the most flyable airliner since release. I have fun doing tens of visual approaches with it everyday. But it’s very hard to fly a whole flight (which I have tried and found numerous bugs) or a STAR. The FMC is just messed up. You can’t even direct to a waypoint without problem. It needs some work but the plane itself flys just fine under manual control or simple AP modes (heading, V/S, ILS approach, etc.). But it’s unfortunate that the auto throttle still does not work.
I am not sure why you find the auto brake not working. It is fine for me, it just doesn’t disarm automatically.
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…that perceived flare was just a desperate attempt to regain the GS.
At 100ft pitch increased to 6° (which is the touchdown attitude IRL) and the GS started dropping away.
Then the AP pushed the nose down to 2° to regain the GS and the A320 started descending below the GS at a ROD of 900ft/min.
Then the AP tried again to regain the GS by pitching up to 3°, just when the A320 hit the runway.
I’ve tried a few ILS approaches with the 787 and the AP and AT worked quite nicely each time.
The autobrakes shouldn’t disarm automatically after landing.
The spoilers magically automatically retract on the 787, which they don’t IRL.
(The same goes for the A320)
As the originator of this thread, my point was simply that the AUTOBRAKE worked before patch #5 and doesn’t work after. Go to -14 mins and watch the landing. Sure the 787 bounces on landing but the Braking is IMO working perfectly on the shorth runway.