Famous Flyer 10: Boeing 707-320C

Yes, but many of them are for more niche operators, and we haven’t seen much at all from the heavy hitters – for example, I would have thought we’d see some Jviation paints for it like we did with the YS-11 since it seems like he has a tight integration with iniBuilds. I had heard there was a paint kit for the YS-11 but he was the only one to get it.

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I know I’d like a Pan Am livery that has windows painted on where the iniBuilds model doesn’t have any on that starboard side. They mentioned on their forums that the reference aircraft they used, HZ-HM2, doesn’t have any windows there, but as far as I’ve seen, that’s the only 707 that has the windows configured that way, and it annoys me every time I see it in the sim now.

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It really is a bit frustrating that they seem to have locked themselves into ONLY being able to do whatever reference airframe they have access to was like, and if the aircraft was different they can’t or won’t model something else off of drawings/photos. The same thing happened with the overhead bins on their L1011 if I recall correctly.

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Assumed Temp Takeoffs - Has anyone figured out a way to do an assumed temp takeoff in this thing? If the devs just unlocked the outside air temperature field on the takeoff performance page of the EFB, and updated the required runway according to our entries, we could figure out derates right there in the EFB. And it would be really helpful if the Flight Engineer honored the setting. Thoughts?

I noticed the front fan on each engine doesnt turn. Yes the stator vains in front of the fan dont move,but the fan behind is supposed to..

They move for me. Only thing I’ve noticed is that the animation for engines 1 and 2 appears to be swapped.

I won’t be surprised that back then, assumed temperature method was not used. Takeoff power was takeoff power. And so, probably, there’s no data for this.

anyone have controll mapping revert to default profile problem?

I Make mapping for 707, then save and exit. next MSFS startup control profile on 707 is revert to defualt control profiles.

Did you use the same livery?

As much as I love this aircraft, it’s utterly bizarre they they wouldn’t look at a picture of the infinitely more common window configuration and use that.

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Here is a guess, they were offered the chance to use a real aircraft to reference.
If it was me, I also would not have known that it was unique in its window layout.

Sometimes, I wonder why developers develop at all, given the flight simulator community’s need to pick every tiny nit out of every product.

For me, it is such a massive leap from the first effort, that I am disposed to give it as much latitude as it needs, including the repainters having added the “missing” windows to most of their excellent work and therefore solved the “problem” well enough for me.

I paid a lot of money for another vintage Boeing model, which I am also delighted with.
This one was a free update to one that cost beans in the first place and as far as I can see is the best value payware product that has been made for MSFS.
To me, it’s gift horse that I have no need to look in the mouth.

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I really love historical aircraft, especially when they’re done in such a great quality and attention to detail. However, to take a VIP 707 as a reference, after taking a L15 without the standard bins from the 1980s, is a bit disappointing. I would understand, if it was a one off like the Dassault Mercure or something similar, but there’s so much reference available for the 707 and L15 webwide - I found the cabin images, the cockpit doors etc also via Google search in a few seconds. Please, inibuilds, fix this issues. :heart:

Besides I am very happy to have bought it in 2024 and watch it develope with the time. It shows there are developers with the same passion as are users. Thanks.

Kind regards

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yes use same varant, same livery

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idk if this is an actual thing but did you update GPU drivers? I’ve noticed that updating Nvidia GPU drivers changes my aircraft profiles to default.

Yes, I have the same problem.

This issue occurs only with 707.

I will remove triple ins mod…I think this mod occurs trouble.

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Have any intrepid modders taken a poke at trying to enable the L1 door for jetways?

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The 707 is my favorite aircraft and this release of the 707 was the reason I finally upgraded from FSX. Here are some suggestions:

  1. Make PAX only and Cargo only versions
  2. Enable the VNAV screen on the UNS-1, so that even if we have to manage level changes ourselves, we can at least see TOD indications
  3. Implement logo lights on the vertical stabilizer
  4. Make the flight model just a little bit less slippery!

Thanks!!

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Hi, so was the real thing so hard to decelerate?

Yes and no. The 707 was a slick airplane, in that it had a lot less drag than most of the piston pounders. We used to allow 10 miles over the 3-times-the-altitude-loss number, to account for the slowdown to 250 at 10k feet. On the other hand, you don’t need to slow all that much from 250 to max flap speed (220 for flaps 14, the first detent). I really haven’t done enough full trip flying on this yet to have much of an appreciation for how hard it is to slow down from really high speeds. If you are trying to duplicate the operating environment for the 707 in the first year or two of its career (barber pole speeds from flaps up to flaps down and no 250 kt speed limit) then you will probably think it slows down too slowly. But that isn’t how it was flown after around 1961.

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