Flaring the A320

I have been struggling with the flare in Fenix. Does one hold the flight-stick back after increasing the pitch by2-3 deg or just a gentle nudge and release is enough as long as the attitude can be maintained?

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Guess holding. But don‘t know exactly. I just do what I need to do to break the sinkate

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I usually pull the stick back to increase the pitch by 4 degrees and hold it in place until the rear wheels touch, then very gently push it forward to rest the front undercarriage.

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Watch Easyjetsimpilot tutorial on flaring the Fenix on YT. It has many great streams about the Fenix.

You are thinking about it mechanically, ie what input must you make. You should think about it in terms of the result you get. Pull back on the controls enough to reduce the sink rate and maintain whatever control input is needed to then touchdown in the touchdown zone.

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I was focusing on results and still haven’t been able to work out what works consistently and hence asked.

The mechanics of what works consistently changes depending on the day. Maybe you crossed the threshold and got a gust of wind briefly increasing your airspeed, or maybe the opposite happened and you’re a bit slow. It difficult to say mechanically what to do other than whatever is required to arrest the rate of descent and then allow the plane to settle on the ground. In the real A320 the flare mode is designed to have you holding back pressure on the stick because that is what feels natural. How much you hold depends on what is happening. I don’t know if the Fenix A320 has modelled the flight control laws in that much detail.

Training Training Training and be relaxed on the controls. You can handle this with 2 Fingers on the stick. Not even real pilots get it everyday. On one day every landing will be smooth, at the other day all landing feels like a controlled crash.

I don’t know if the Fenix A320 has modelled the flight control laws in that much detail.

Yes, it has. The Fenix A320 only needs a very subtle flare in most cases, especially with strong headwind. Lower cockpitview can help to avoid thinking that you’re nose down, when you’re actually nose up. It’s all very well explained in the video tutorial i mentioned.
EDIT: Here is the link:

Close to touchdown an Airbus will steadily trim forward so you’ll have to pull more and more and more until you touch down. Don’t chase for so called greasers, just break your descent and put it down firmly within the touchdown zone.

Tried holding the stick back and that resulted in a bounced landing. Also, is it advisable to always use autothrust while landing?

Bounce landing sounds like too fast. Did you move the thrustlever to idle when the call came? You need to have the correct Approach and landingspeed. When you’re to fast, you will have bounces and you are flaring too long over the runway and could miss the landing area.

You have to pull, not push.

Standard procedure is to leave the auto thrust on until the flare. At about the 30 call, bring the thrust levers back to idle, this disconnects the auto thrust. If you wait for the RETARD call, that’s a bit late.

ouch… yep… foreign language :sweat_smile: thx, corrected

I did pull thrust levers to idle and you may be right, I flew the finals completely manual including disconnecting autothrust. That may have led to higher speed or I may have pulled the stick a little too much.

Training Training Training……it’s all about. I flown traffic pattern again and again and again. Touch and go and round again. You will get to a point where you got it. And when you’re at the point where your landings fits, in between it’s fun and give you some additional training when you just fly around without any rules. I just call it wild boar flying. :joy:

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