Is this a flat spin?
EDIT:
Second attempt…
Nope. That spin is nose-down, a flat spin is nose level and is usually caused by rearward CG.
Yep, better but still slightly nose-down - you might not get a rearward-enough CG in such a small plane. Try setting a rearward CG in something like the default C208 Caravan.
Its a stall but not a spin.
Try turning left ir right, induce a stall and give ot a boot full if rudder in the same direction as the turn.
Im not familiar with that aircraft so i dont know the stall speeds
The rudder is full in the same direction as the turn.
Did you see the second attempt?
What is the AoA range at which we can talk about flat spin? 65-90 degrees?
Almost level according to these people who have far more knowledge than I, lol:
I’ve thought about this unrecoverable spins, and wondered how expensive, or practical it would be to have some kind of motor above the nose of the aircraft to force it down. Something like a compressed gas cylinder, small rocket motor etc. In an emergency you push the button, and the motor goes off with hopefully enough force to push the nose downwards. It wouldn’t need to fire for very long, maybe a few seconds. Probably cheaper, and lighter, than one of those emergency parachutes.
Drag chutes can be use too.
Almost is not a very precise term. (;
How about level enough that both the wings, and elevator have stalled?
I think the recent crash of the ATR 72 is a decent example of a flat spin, where the wings and elevators are losing all lift and there’s no more rudder authority.
Solution in theory: Max throttle icw full yoke ( or stick ) forward to the max to force a nose down.
That feels counter intuitive but is your only option.
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The advice for a regular spin is the opposite with regard to power, as airflow over the tail will bring the nose up. Maybe full power can generate enough airflow over the elevator for it to work? Maybe on some planes it would work but not on others.
The exact AoA will vary with aircraft type, payload, atmospheric conditions, etc.
most modern ultralights already come standard with emergency chutes. So I don’t think they are that expensive any more. Problem is retrofitting them if aircraft weren’t built for them.
On the other hand: how many flat spin accidents are there? Compared to other fatal accident reasons (of which over 80% are due to pilot error) I would estimate flat spins to be neglegible.
Most fatal crashes happen during landing, take-off or because of the weather.
Adding power should flatten and tighten the spin/accelerate it (power is a pro-spin input).
Maybe if it was a clockwise spin it would actually slow it?
During my attempt I got max power in. (;