FLC seems to change in 10knot increments on the Cessna 172 Skyhawk G1000

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  • Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024:
    2024

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  • Game Platform (Steam, Xbox, MS Store):
    Steam

:white_check_mark: ISSUE DESCRIPTION

  1. Description of the issue:
    FLC only supports 10 knot changes, and unable to change w/ 1 knot granularity

  2. If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
    Cessna 172 Skyhawk

  3. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
    All removed

:white_check_mark: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)
Constantly, using both UI buttons + my honeycomb bravo

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  1. Start a flight in the Cessna 172 G1000
  2. Use FLC with AP/FD
  3. Change speed using panel buttons. Changes are in 10knot increments

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    Geforce 3090

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
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Works as expected on my end in C172 on PC;
Single mouse clicks change it +/- 1 kt, repetitive clicks eventually increase it to 10kts increments

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• clicking nose up/down results in 10 knot increments instead of single knot

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• worked as expected previously but now exhibits erroneous behavior

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Peculiar.

I get it consistently if I:

  1. Spawn in at a runway
  2. Enable FD
  3. Set target altitude of 5000 ft
  4. Set HDG bug to current hdg
  5. Full throttle
  6. Take-off
  7. Enable HDG on G1000, enable AP
  8. Click FLC
  9. Click nose up / nose down to set speed
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The HDG bug also changes in 10 deg steps when using the hardware. If using ingame panel it does fortunately support 1 deg steps.

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Actually I think this is something that I also encountered in 2020 from time to time. No idea how, but at some point it resolved itself. maybe there’s a keybind to make the increment steps larger that I pressed accidentally?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• Increments by 10 knots with each click, whether by short or long pressure. Does not work in Legacy or Lock modes.

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•no issues with the Diamond DA62, it works well 1kt by 1kt

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this was an issue for me before patch 3, but now its working for me on steam version pc in 1kt increments controlled with my TB stick. is OP patched?

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When I used the Diamond DA62, the 1 kt increase worked very well (the FLC can only be controlled on the MFD, not the PFD).
Then I switched back to the 172 and it worked too, much to my surprise… but only for one mission… because after that, the increase is 10 kt again.
Sorry for the question, but what do you mean by op patched?

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did you update to patch three?

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yes, I’m up to date and I’ve even done a deinstallation and a reinstallation.
What I don’t understand is that after driving the DA62, it worked for one mission…

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• no

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• using the mouse to click on G1000 nose up/down change the speed by 1kt
Are you using maybe a button on a controller to change the speed ?

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I only use the mouse to click the nose of the G1000 up or down but the speed is changed by 10kt.
I don’t use a button on a controller…
Interestingly, as on the DA62 and c400, the PFD has no parameter buttons like the MFD (Vs, Nav, HDG, FLC…) and in this case the increment works perfectly…

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Are you using a controller to change the FLC speed ?, if yes which one and could you add it in your 1st post description ?. If using the mouse and click on the G1000 nose up/down, do you also have the issue ?
I followed your steps provided above but cannot replicate.

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Just tried again and cannot reproduce, weird issue. Do you have the issue with all variants/liveries ? or maybe one in particular ? Are you on PC or Xbox ? Have you removed all your addons ?

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I think I found this behavior and the reason for it. When I click slowly I get 1 kt increments. If I click quickly in rapid sucession, like about more than 2 clicks/second I get 10kt increments with each click (though in the wrong direction as noted in another bug report). Tried it with DA and C172 in free flight mode. Both behave the same.

I am on PC and clicking the nose up/down with mouse.

it just seems un-necessarily complicated to have those 10kt steps even available and maybe could even cause problems - usually you should pitch up or down rather slowly anyway. But the 10kt increments could be useful on a very fast aircraft like jet airliners.

So for the slower planes, just click about once per second and you should be fine.

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Thanks for trying to solve the problem.
I made 2 video captures.
The first with the 172’s g1000 and the second with the c400.

I’m on PC W10 and I don’t have any addons yet.

This concerns all the books of the 172 and I think my problem comes from the version of the g1000 whose PFD has the same button configuration as the MFD. Whereas the g1000 version of the C400, for example, which doesn’t have the panel of buttons on its left-hand side (hdg, vs, nav, flc…) doesn’t have this problem…


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Thanks for sharing those videos where we can clearly see the issue on the C172 G1000.
I have tried what @CaliFlier said to reproduce and yes, by clicking quickly on the mouse you can increment by 10kts but in your video you do not seem to click quickly right ? so it seems a separate issue.
Do you have a wire or a unwired mouse ? any chance to try with another mouse ? (not sure at all if could be the issue).
I’ll keep trying to replicate but so far all good with my C172 G1000.

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Thanks, I appreciate it.
I had posted on December 18th something weird :

“When I was using the Diamond DA62, the 1 kt increase worked fine (the FLC can only be controlled on the MFD, not the PFD).
Then I went back to the 172 and that worked too, much to my surprise… but only for one mission… because after that, the increase is 10 kt again.“

I’ll try with another mouse. Mine is wired.

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I tested it with another mouse, this one wireless, but the problem remains the same…